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Update Allegra - Google Update 2-2-2005

         

illusionist

1:34 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My site which came back on december 26 update, seems to have disappeared again on this data center [216.239.53.99...] . Its notwhere to be found even in allinanchor, allintitle etc? I see majot change on that data center, is this a new update?

KrisVal

9:14 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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<---Isn't this misrepresentation of my brand or something?--->

Legally, I can not imagine that Google is violating any law, but it is absolutely ridiculous. If the Goal of Google is to have a great search experience for the user, shouldn't the user expect to get the "Coca-Cola" website when they search for it.

I sell products and services on this particular site and it is a legal registered trademark with the USPTO. I have a loyal following and I get a lot of searches to my brand name. If Google wants users to have a good experience, they should ensure that the domain people are looking for goes to the top of the query.

Vent -> I am really sick of the power Google holds over webmasters. Everything from design to wasting countless hours on issues like this. I hope MSN kicks their butt in the next couple of years. And I believe they will. They always win!

theBear

9:26 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The darn update isn't even done yet and everyone is up in arms.

I wish G would do these offline and then throw the switch

Kangol

9:41 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This morning I was out of SEPR. My site was only to be found on about 15 DCs. Now I am only in 216.239.53.104, 66.102.7.104 and 66.102.7.99.
I have the sad feeling that this SEPR are spreading all over. The results are really bad for me, my site is noware to be found even for his name. How relevant are these results?
I’m just upset…

[edited by: Kangol at 9:45 pm (utc) on Feb. 7, 2005]

mzadorian

9:44 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hey Guys, since Saturday, my web site has been going in and out of google every 20 minutes. Since I believe thursday and friday, I was in there with great ranking. Now when its in, my ranking is awesome, but then all of a sudden, every 20 minutes its completely out. Has this happened to anyone else?

Chico_Loco

9:59 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The darn update isn't even done yet and everyone is up in arms

It's done enough for me to know that there are either major complications at Google, or that they had a plan change and the best relavancy is no longer as important.

baron13

10:10 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone have an idea:

- why google is making these updates always "live" and not in the background and than, when finished, displaying it to the surfers? I think it is not really nice for the normal surfer if they do not find what they are looking for! The results re crazy. In my business we have different categories. For example: blue widgets, hot widgets, no widgets. And normaly if you enter hot widgets in google, the no and the blue widgets are never listed. But now if you enter hot widgets, you can see hot, blue and no widgets on the first site in the serps.

I don't know why it is so difficult for google to make their updates in the background and not to show such bad serps to the surfers....

Armi

10:12 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have new results on

216.239.37.99

My project was in the Sandbox, after Allegra I jumped with my keywords from 200-500 to 20-50.

Now I have the positions 5-15 on this Datacenter.....

diddlydazz

10:16 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing better results on 216.239.37.99

looks like the "not finding the url" problem has been eradicated for the urls I am checking

dazz

Bluesplinter

10:17 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I have new results on: 216.239.37.99

Yep, ditto. A search on my company name has been coming up #4 lately, with sites that link TO me coming in ahead of me, but that DC has things in proper order (for me, at least).

androidtech

10:17 pm on Feb 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

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baron13,

Probably because there is no way to do a small run that would be representative of the full population, where the "population" is the billions of web pages that Google has. So anything they try in a microcosm (in the background), would have very little chance of scaling up to the real search universe because the keyword statistics of the microcosm population would have very little resemblance to the real search universe.

So instead, they probably run multiple tests in parallel, with different versions of the algorithm on different data centers. Analyze what works best, cross populate it to the other servers, and keep doing this until they get something they "like".

The behavior being seen is very much like that of doing a genetic algorithms run. If you want more info, just punch "genetic algorithms" into Google and start reading.

Wild speculation on my part of course.

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