Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
The Gbot reads thousands of pages per day on our system. Why in the world should we allow this if we get no return? To keep hope up? To see our nice pages cached?At the moment they even fail to list our website for its very unique name...
This is not a hate thread or so - but if they are useless ... why in gods name should we deliver them our bandwith?
Ditto every word. Why on earth would someone want to spend so much bandwidth (daily) and get no visitors in return.
Maybe if more webmasters join forces and start taking actual action against this weird seismic google ups and downs (with absolute disregard to the impact it have on so many web sites/businesses). Maybe then the guys at google will think twice before shacking the boat too hard (SERPs and Adsense). Maybe then they will roll what ever algo changes they have SLOWLY.
They are using our content to deliver thier clients search results (and increase thier bottom line in the process). They do owe us somthing in return!
Sorry for the rant but i see nothing good in whatever google brought to this world except for cyber slavery for most of us webmaster. I already started removing the google search box and recommending MSN & Yahoo search to my visitors on all of my sites.
The google power over our lives is way too great, and i feel that something must be done about it.
May be sites which have printable version for their articles are getting heavy penalty? Print version page of an article is duplicate content, right?
Nice idea but doesn't fit what I'm seeing. I only have "print versions" on one site and that is the one site not hit by this update.
Several people have suggested an over-eager dupe filter, but some of the worst SERPS results I'm seeing are filled with many copies of identical blog-comment spam.
For me it's very simple - if Google fails to deliver results i will block their bot. Its just accessing too many of our pages and causing too much traffic to justify the results.For me, that is a business relationship. They read and cache our pages - in exchange they provide visitors.
How true. So first a big thanks to Brett that he pays all this webspace for all unhappy webmasters to empty their hearts.
I just had the idea whether It'd make sense to establish a tool (database) where all webmasters might insert their observations instead of chaotically complaining and filling threads like this.
For a simple start it would perhaps suffice to have a form/database comprising the date, url (deep), keyword and two integer values for the result-spot before and after any update.
If you ask me googles algos have become so complex, that any hand-made analysis by trial and error is somewhat out of time. We urgently need means to proceed towards a more professional process of theory-builing and -evaluation of SEO-techniques. Such a database might be a very good basis for building automatic tools for analysis, and it would be perfectly fine if read-access to such a database was limited to the paid section.
So first a big thanks to Brett that he pays all this webspace for all unhappy webmasters to empty their hearts
I concur. In fact, go one step better. Sign up as subscribers. Everyone. Seriously :) It was worth it when I first did. It's still worth it now.
Anyone has an input on this?
Nawar
If enough webmasters get fed up and ban Googlebot, word will get out that Google's index is not complete, because their bot has been banned. People will go elsewhere to search, because they know Google can't list all the sites due to the ban.
It's a two way street, if Google uses my bandwidth and my pages to increase its index count, I expect visitors from them in return. When I search for page titles on my site, and the page doesn't come up in the top 100, it proves to me that Google's relevancy is in bad shape, especially when I'm the only site out there with a page full of information on the subject.
Google is really screwed up right now, IMO.
Andy
I have ignored google for the most part and carried on growing my site and it appears within the last 2 days I am getting the rankings that I had a year ago and google has more than doubled its traffic to me, with the extra from MSN and Yahoo I am suitably happy with twice the traffic I have been used to, however I know that if and when it changes I will not be reliant on google again so it's a lesson learned for me, and at this point a nice bonus to be getting much improved SERPS.
Wait until the dust has settled and then we will know what has happened.
Until then, if your serps are good mid-update enjoy, if they are bad mid-update ride it out.
There is no point getting excited or disapointed just yet.
on some of the above ips my site was out of sandbox few hours back now its nowhere to be found
