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Hmmm, 3418 results for widgets:)
This is just another advanced web feature and people will always flock through "regular" searches for other information. Your sites will still have a chance to come into play. Give it a year, probably two, then worry.
[edited by: msgraph at 4:19 am (utc) on Dec. 12, 2002]
But as Googleguy says, Google isn't going into affiliate marketing.
[edited by: Cooter at 4:21 am (utc) on Dec. 12, 2002]
And I'll bet lunch GoogleGuy won't comment on the CPC ads in their 'free shopping engine'. It wouldn't come out right.
This way, they are still selling ads - on both sides of the page.
jeremy_goodrich: The right-hand side are regular AdWords. :) If something shows up in Froogle results, it's probably because we crawled it on the web. But I'll repeat: we don't give any special or preferential treatment to any search result. We sort by the results we think are the most relevant. We think that's the best way. :) But anyone can buy AdWords, which would show up on the right-hand side of Froogle in a clearly marked way.
Does google drive revenue via this 'accident'? Or just the SEO firm?
(the regular froogle results, not the ads on the right hand side).
I know that many will disagree with me, but the affiliate model, while not ever dying out, will become less viable in the future and has already passed it's "golden age".
I think affiliate programs will become just another form of advertising--which was the original concept behind affiliate marketing, unless I'm mistaken. Even if pure affiliate sites are killed off by shopping search engines, changes in SE algorithms, or whatever, there will still be value in (for example) a manufacturer of canine products being able to sell poodle sweaters, labrador backpacks, etc. through content or community sites for dog owners. The person who's never heard of a pet car seat or who hasn't even thought of canine ice crampons for winter dog walks won't go looking for such products in Froogle, but he may buy them if he sees them featured on pug-pals-of-portland.org.
[edited by: europeforvisitors at 4:47 am (utc) on Dec. 12, 2002]
For example, a canon G3 digital camera. Can you put like "Free 64MB card!" in text with the picture?
Basically Froogle is like your Sunday's paper flyers - only the big stores are in there.
If you are a small online store that sells an item that happens to be sold by the big guys, this is a bad day for you.
nough said.....
jeremy_goodrich, we show results that we think are the most relevant, and users go there directly. Google doesn't derive any revenue from showing the Froogle search results--we don't charge for inclusion, and we rank by relevance order. We do show clearly marked ads on the right-hand side, just like we show ads next to Google Search results, Google Groups results, etc.
gopi, I think three Google forums is enough already. :) If Brett adds another Google forum, they'll have to find a FroogleGuy. ;)
Well, maybe I'd drop in now and then.. :)
One way to think of Froogle is that it shows all the places that we know of on the web where you can buy something--plus we're adding feeds from other merchants too. But it's the power of crawling the web that lets someone find 1500+ results for canon GL2. (If Santa is reading WebmasterWorld, I'd love to get one of those puppies in my stocking. :) )
[edited by: GoogleGuy at 5:25 am (utc) on Dec. 12, 2002]
But it's the power of crawling the web that let's someone find 1500+ results for canon GL2. (If Santa is reading WebmasterWorld, I'd love to get one of those puppies in my stocking. )
I'll give you one if you get rid of Froogle.
I'll give you one if you get rid of Froogle.
I'll pitch in. But, I'm thinking about this from the point of view of a spammer. It is an awesome technology, and could be quite useful to a surfer. I just think developing something around solely commercial purposes seems to indicate some ulterior motives.
[edited by: ggrot at 6:08 am (utc) on Dec. 12, 2002]
Just my personal take: I've seen Froogle rapidly getting better and better, so I think that there are still adjustments and improvements in the future.
[edited by: GoogleGuy at 5:45 am (utc) on Dec. 12, 2002]
One site I see has a keyword mentioned also has a dollar value on their page but its for soemthing else, however the price is displayed in the search :) heheh a 275.00 item says google which cost 3.00 on the site :P
BTW I love this site, I see many good advantages too it, I can still do some frugal xmas shopping :P
Um, I don't know about the user agent. I think it's the standard Googlebot right now, and I would assume that it would still be that. I'll let folks know if I find out differently though.
Due to your activity tonight, I hope to ask this question and find the answer:
Miva is one of the largest shopping applications around, yet Google (and Froogle) does not seem to list pages for individual products. Will this likely change? What can I do to be proactive?
It seems that this question is more important than ever with the rise of Froogle (love the name ;) )
[edited by: dvduval at 6:07 am (utc) on Dec. 12, 2002]
On the other hand, the depth of return on a specific type of textile was quite impressive. Much more relevant than the normal Google results.
Will watch the development of this one very closely.
[edited by: zechariah at 6:25 am (utc) on Dec. 12, 2002]
