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Major changes to AdSense

Pricing structure and ad relevance

         

markus007

8:04 pm on Apr 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Unless adsense is sending out a april fools joke, what do people think of the changes? Every site has a unique pricing model?

For example, a click on an ad for digital cameras on a web page about photography tips may be worth less than a click on the same ad appearing next to a review of digital cameras.

[edited by: markus007 at 8:08 pm (utc) on April 1, 2004]

jonathanleger

5:19 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As of this morning I'm now getting 3 out of 4 irrelevent ads on the leaderboard. My daily $ is 1/3 of what it normally is. These changes are not good for me...

ILuvSrchEngines

5:34 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)



>As of this morning I'm now getting 3 out of 4 irrelevent ads on the leaderboard. My daily $ is 1/3 of what it normally is. These changes are not good for me...

Just when you think Google has screwed just about everyone possible (all the commercial phrase filtering and site blocking), they come up with something totally new. lol

I think even the hard core 'Google is God' cheerleaders are getting a little tired of the non-sense. Google is on it's last legs I think. I give them one more year, then I will offer them $10 for the Google domain name and whever else is left.

forcesofnature

5:59 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Seems very obvious to me that they are throttling us on a per click basis (or maybe total revenue) based on how well our sites convert. Even the example in their marketing supports this. They have conversion tracking on Adwords and they know how well our sites convert.

kwasher

6:33 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Being on both sides, I can see what is going on.

People searching for clicks on the search engine are truley targeted and 'actively' looking for something.

People surfing web sites are 'interested' in the site topic, but are not actively looking for something specific.

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In my AdWORDS campaigns, some of them I turned OFF content matching- wanting searched-for, 'active' leads only.

Other campaigns I left content matching ON, because It was ok for those campaigns to have only 'interested' traffic. (I felt I could convert them)

As an advertiser, I was paying the same price for both kinds of leads. But the first kind is more valuable than the second one.

It appears the Google God is making content matching more attractive to advertisers, by making it cost less.

If it costs less, then publishers profits are less.

But, if the quantity (usage) increases, then publishers profits come back.

I think it will all balance out.

chicagohh

6:43 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My daily earnings have increased substantially over the last 2 days.

I kinda like these changes.

ChrisKud5

7:12 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't quite get it. It seems Google tried to ditch affil. sites from top rankings, but now they are paying more for sites that are selling a product or providing direct links to a product to be sold. Review sites thrive on affiliate linking to sell the product being reviewed. Not all of course, but a lot of them. So hey, lets pay them more for ads because they are trying to sell something, while information and education deserves less money.

Is this a way to promote the use of Froogle is some way?

Adsense was marketed to people who had "hobby sites" and the like who could put ads on and make money "Anyone can make money with Adsense". Now these same informational hobby sites that google once marketed to get a drop in earnings because they want to change the "pricing structure" of ads?

Hey, while we are at segregating ads for various sites, lets segregate everything. We can bring back racial inequality, it is the same thing as saying the same ad on this site is worth more than that site.

Im furious. When is MSFT coming out with a their kickass search engine again? Where do i sign up for publishing ads?

TravelWebDude

7:37 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As is always the case, anything from Google i.e. official statements, posts from Google Guy etc. is treated with a fair degree of scepticism i.e. algorithm is broke, Google has lost the plot etc. I guess this stems from people's inherent distrust of authority/corporations and the X-Files factor (i.e. everything is a conspiracy, there must be more to it than they're letting on).

However, I think AdSense subscribers should take Google's changes at face value, namely that they'll give a better deal to AdWords customers (through better targeting/relevance and higher conversion rates) whilst not unduly affecting AdSense publishers.

As always though, good quality content is the key. For example, whilst there are thousands of hotel affiliate sites out there, few offer decent content about the cities they cover i.e. how to get there, sightseeing, eating out, shopping etc. Therefore, publishers who take the time (and money) to add such content, not only provide added value to their customers, but tend to rate more highly in Google SERPS (through on page factors) on a wider number of categories, generate more traffic and consequently receive more revenue from AdSense.

So I see this as simply a technical improvement to provide improved relevance which should, if anything, deliver increased AdSense revenue to any publisher with a decent content-driven (and well-optimised) website.

shortz

7:49 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If you look at Adsense in the light that anything that is good for the advertisers, in the long run, is good for the publishers, then, anything that Google does that makes adverts happier is good for us.

This program is very cool, though I worry that it would dwindle to a trickle of what it has been, obviously, making it NOT a good thing for publishers, that could happen anyway if adverts became disenchanted with the program..

So.. if this keeps this going longer.. GREAT!

My day today basically wound up being, sort of, average.. not better, not really worse. Obviously, reading the stats from "moment to moment" there are some clicks that pay much higher than others.. Two or three additional between checks brought me up from dismal to average..

Here's to high paying clicks ey!

;)

Wayne

inwaaaytoodeep

8:04 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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At least we're clear who's the rider and who's the horse now.

shortz

8:10 am on Apr 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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At least we're clear who's the rider and who's the horse now.

<best Mr. Ed voice> Willlbur.....!

:)

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