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Seen this on serveral sites.
Each time I think I have figured it out after days of research, Yahoo changes the algo.
(#1 on MSN as well)
At that time, i didn't know one thing such as Dir. submission could lead to removal. months later, i figured it out when reading a post on WW and submitted a very nice apology letter to yahoo.
I removed the links page, of course, and all outbound links to other sites. at that point, they were not important, the site was doing great on its own in both msn and google. yahoo didn't reply back, but the site has been re-spidered again and is slowly coming up in search, but nowhere near the initial high. I'm hoping to recover in another 6-12 months.
php is not a factor, my whose site is .php .
I would not touch a website that ranked well in google & msn.
i think yahoo really needs to look at its index and how much they've banned at this point... the quality of their index is poor compare to M&G.
Adding to this insult, my blocked URLs (disallowed by robots.txt) in main domain actually get indexed even though they are listed as URL only.
I don't think this is necessarily the case at all. We do rank for some minor search terms pretty well but not our major kw's on y. We've been around for about 5 years and I put most of the blame on poor updates and subpar algorithms. It's been stated in other threads that Y's current algo is having a hard time getting the most appropriate page for a particular kw on a site to rank. Example-A search for "blue widgets" brings up the "widget" home page instead of the page dedicated to "blue widgets". I think this is our main problem but there's nothing we can do about it but wait for Y to come to there senses and turn down some filters. We have pages on our site that haven't been updated in years that outrank much more relevant newer(about a year old) pages.
I totally disagree, this might not be the case. My site is ranked well in Yahoo and MSN, but has poor rankings in Google. I think reworking on yor site for content relevency, keyword insertion, tags, inbound links will help. This three SE's have different algo's, as we all know, and the factor considered important by Yahoo might be laking on your site. Find it, work on it and wait for some-time.
Well, my website is online for about 6 years. GG and MSN rank it very good, Yahoo search don't even knows me. But I was accepted as a yahoo ads publisher at the very beginning, so I guess it says something about what they think about my (really useful) website, no?
To the guy who needs a sitemap for Google, you really need to get your own crawler software, and list several sitemaps--XML, NTF 8 text, and HTML links for visitors.
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[edited by: tedster at 7:02 pm (utc) on Jan. 3, 2006]
Yahoo search sucks. Total waste for such a high traffic portal. It's like they don't even care about search.
The other third of the time, I think it is mainly due to a ghost in the machine. :p
The main problem is that they are owned by SBC do I need to say more.
From several long phone calls I realized they don't have a clue to what's going on. I guess it would be better to write them off and not worry about it anymore. That's what I am doing. Later.
The main problem is that they are owned by SBC do I need to say more.
No, they are not.
They partner with SBC on SBC's DSL product. Yahoo delivers software and branding, etc. SBC does the heavy lifting.
The main thing I have noticed is that I rank well for completely different terms in Yahoo than I do in Google. MSN is another story altogether, the crawl the most and send the least traffic.
Yahoo was almost out of business when they "partnered" with SBC.
No.
Yahoo was not almost out of business when they partnered with SBC. If they were so destitute, where do you think they obtained the money to launch Yahoo Personals, buy HotJobs, and purchase Launch?
Yahoo and SBC announced the launch of their services [yhoo.client.shareholder.com] in late 2002, although they'd been planning and investing for it since 2001.
Here is a quote [yhoo.client.shareholder.com] from the 2002 Yahoo Annual Report (2002 being the year you say they almost went out of business):
Full year 2002 revenue was $953 million, a 33 percent increase over 2001. Importantly, year-over-year revenue growth accelerated with each quarter in 2002, due to the change in our client mix and the growing contribution of our newer, more sustainable revenue sources. Yahoo!'s balance sheet also remained strong, ending the year with $1.53 billion in cash and marketable debt securities, up more than $60 million from the beginning of the year.
Everybody was struggling the year before in 2001, and it wasn't confined to the internet. But by 2002, Terry Semel's belt tightening and focus on growing revenue streams paid off.
Late 2002 is when they were negotiating purchasing Inktomi, and a few months later they purchased Overture and all the rest. Is that a company on the ropes? And it sure wasn't fueled by SBC income.
I suppose Yahoo has banned me? Is there anyway to get unbanned?
I seem to be banned at MSN too.
Only Google likes me.
Yahoo is no longer Yahooing, based on our files!
Take a fresh look at duplicate content issues and linking patterns. IMHO, about two thirds of the time the issue identified in this thread starts in one of these two places. The other third of the time, I think it is mainly due to a ghost in the machine. :p
Google has me between #1 to #3 for all the big money keywords in my trade. But on Yahoo I don't even rank, or when I do I'm #47 or so. Yup, Yahoo sux, royally. But regardless I can't stand leaving all that traffic sitting on the table un-harvested. Anybody have any clues, ideas, practical solutions to deal with what is, to make the best of Yahoo's suckiness?
I get most of my traffic from yahoo at the moment. The SERPS I see are pretty relevant with minimal spam. I run a niche directory that has bombed in google and gets minimal traffic from MSN.
Yahoo sends me 87% of my free traffic, the page count for site:example.com is perfect and the results for link:example.com are almost exact as far as I can tell.
For me, Yahoo has about the best results in my niches and give me useful, accurate data about my site.
Anyone else?
Ska
Anybody consistently ranking high on both Google and Yahoo (MSN too) across a broad range of keywords? If so, we would like to take a blood sample and put you under the microscope please - because you're a rare specimen indeed.
The problem is that Yahoo's algorithm is apparently set up as the Anti-Google. What Google likes, Yahoo dislikes. So you can't optimize for both.
