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Anyone have great Google and MSN results but horrible Yahoo results?

Yahoo results very different from others...

   
4:30 pm on Dec 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Do you experience great Google and MSN results for your keywords and phrases, but consistantly have bad results on Yahoo on the exact same keywords and phrases? Have you noticed this has worsened in the past year?
9:34 pm on Apr 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does a page that Yahoo has indexed necessarily have to be Cached in order to function?

Yahoo has indexed my more recent pages, but isn't caching them.

3:25 pm on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)



Tests across 100+ of my own sites indicate that depending upon which Yahoo! engine one uses it can give alarmingly different results.

All my pages are indexed, with that I have no problem, however if I search for "my keyword" using Yahoo.co.uk with the UK search, there I am, top of the pile, switch it to the Web and yes, there I am again:-)

Now if I open a different browser altogther and access Yahoo.com and enter "my keyword"...blahhhh...nowhere to be found in the first couple of pages even for 100% exclusive products, it just seems to serve totally unrelated USA results until it gets to mine.

So, is Yahoo! geo-targeting in an unsophisticated way?

Not necessarily so therefore I am going to transfer some of my domains to a US-based server to test my hypothesis.

One thing I have noticed is that they seem to be spidering quite quickly these days and updating that information so hopefully I should know the results within the next couple of weeks or so.

Has anyone else tested and seen similar results to mine?

8:54 pm on Apr 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The shared server issue is not an issue at all.

I had a client who was getting smoked for very easy and uncompetitive niche terms, while g and msn were fine, we did paid inclusion and BOOM came back in, high ranks with minimal changes to content. Intersting.

8:27 am on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi, I think it is possible a shared server could cause the problem for example if it was full of spam/porn sites all on your ip address - not saying it is just that it is possible.

The Yahoo hits from one site I started last June are just starting to appear now.

Hits from a site I started in Jan this year are totally 0.

Slurp visits everyday using my bandwidth and the appropiate commands show the site as being indexed - Yahoo say there is no penalty - it mkes the google sandbox look like a playpit in comparison!

9:40 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I discovered this earlier thread

[webmasterworld.com...]

That I think may hold the answer to my yahoo troubles. There's talk about such a thing as a "total demotion penalty."

9:56 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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A "total demotion penalty." is how I would describe what I see, as I say above the site "" command shows results in the index but yahoo refuses to list the site for any search term.

Asking Yahoo just elicits a rubbish "try for more links" response.

Dont really know what the answer is.

11:49 pm on Apr 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Also, when Yahoo returns site: search results, only the homepage link is cached.
8:41 am on Apr 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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At the end of the day is there a solution to this?
9:32 pm on Apr 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I asked Yahoo about my domain yesterday and got back a reply the next day.

The lady at Yahoo said: there are no current indications that your pages have been blocked from the Yahoo! index.

Here's what I asked:

"I think my domain
http:*******.com, may have a demotion penalty. My site is in the Yahoo search index and slurp has been spidering some of my pages, but I have not been receiving any traffic. A site:www.********.com search reveals that I am in the index, but only my homepage is cached and there are also a large number of dead links to pages I removed long ago.

Since last summer, I have rebuilt this site as a content site with original handwritten content.

Please let me know if there is a problem I must fix to have this penalty lifted."

9:25 am on Apr 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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what is the reason why my site is not doing well in yahoo...? i am not able to see my site page even on the 5th page of yahoo with same keywords its doing fairly in Google and Msn....
can any body suggest me how i can improve my yahoo result
2:54 pm on Apr 17, 2006 (gmt 0)



For the terms that I watch, Yahoo seems to be dominated more by name-brand and network sites than Google is. Overall, I'm not impressed.
1:08 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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yep, I have to also say the serps in my area (business) are dominated by spammer (eg: 20 duplicate sites with the same stuff or made for adsense)

complete tosh

9:43 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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same problem here:

my site is #1 in Google
[google.com...]

and MSN
[search.msn.com...]

but in Yahoo
[search.yahoo.com...]
only #12

I have many quality inbound links, i wonder why ranking in Yahoo is so different?

10:23 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Foreva

we try to stay away from specific search terms (read the TOS). But since you did include them, let me say that getting a load of links from forums is hardly quality links. You didn't even register any backlinks from Google in the search I did.

Just because your site isn't top for your phrase doesn't make Yahoo bad. In fact, I think Google and MSN have been 'gamed'.

More serious is EFV's point about big sites dominating. This has actually been my anger about Google over the past 6 months - epinions, rateyourmusic, amazon, amazon, amazon. Our viewpoint does depend on the area our websites are aimed at. In music, I would rate Yahoo as the best quality but it may not be in travel.

10:36 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I must disagree about MSN and G being "gamed".
My inbound links aren't only from forums - they are from press-releses, paid high PR links,link-exchanges,
directory submissions.
Besides, my domain name is the same as keystring, which is huge factor for Google (and most probably not for Yahoo). But i guess i have to wait to see the results, looks like Yahoo is slow in picking up links.
10:46 pm on Apr 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Foreva

I was being a little provocative with my post. Sorry for that, but your reply does kind of support my thesis in that your strategy is to get the best links for Search Engine ranking rather than allow the sheer quality of your content to generate natural links like Google imply they want. But, hey, I have done the same with some of my sites.

If you check my new topic in this forum you will see that I have today found Yahoo to be lightening quick on picking up links. Yahoo is a strange beast, once it likes you then it really likes you.

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