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Reuters at Forbes.com [forbes.com].
"Yahoo's goal for the new products remains the same as always -- to boost users and revenue from Internet queries -- and Weiner was quick to deny the changes are a direct assault on Google's market share. The new setup, however, includes a number of Google-like features, including a more tightly integrated image search and small boxed text ads on the right side of the page."
I have a call into Yahoo PR. In the meantime I'll be doing some experimenting to see if the changes are up yet. Anyone want to guess how long Google's going to continue to provide results to Yahoo?
Other things that make me go hmmm: How long before Yahoo unhooks with Overture if ever? Overture sure seems like a more direct threat with the recent acquisition of AltaVista/AlltheWeb. When does somebody pick up AskJeeves, which seems to me to be a very solid property that a lot of these search engines
could put to good use? When will search engines get a clue about RSS feeds? Is Northern Light alive or what?
Who the heck needs soap operas when you got search engines?
RBuzz
This reminds me of that thread in Foo that NFFC started last year when there was a big Yahoo "happening" with everyone waiting for hours for its debut. All it was, was a special sale event for Yahoo shopping and the only thing that *some* of the gentlemen <cough> found worthy to notice was some ad for a low cut bathing suit with a photo.
It was nothing more than PR spin that time, and I think we've been had again.
Noplace else did Yahoo get paid. ;)
cosmetics looks nothing like Ink or Google, it looks like all PAID results in all the top search spots, either Yahoo shopping or from the directory. I don't even like to think about the implications of that.
Y! has to be careful. Presuming the strategy is to grab searchers market share from Google. - Googlers will give them one or two chances after their roll out, and if the SERPS look highly commercial or full of ads, they wont give it another try for a few weeks, or months.
That first roll out is crucial.
[b.search.yahoo.com...]
[new.search.yahoo.com...]
Am I seeing things, or if you click on "more results from this site" they are lined up by pr?
I don't see Yahoo even coming close to fighting for top spot for searchers even if they SOMEHOW get better results than google Yahoo has gained a bad reputation among searches and it will take a lot to win them back IMO.
I'm waiting for the new major player to rise up from the dust to take all current leaders in search including google. I really can't see this happening from Yahoo, Overture or other players at the moment. The more competition we have and the more breakthrough's we have technology wise and Algo wise we will all have a better internet experiance. I mean the Internet is all about "searching" we should get some great engines.
My 2p
Steve
Product search engine beta:
[products.yahoo.com...]
Even has it's own toolbar now ;)
Text ads on the right and everything.
They still haven't figured everything out.
Most people aren't going to pay $$$$ to read news stories.
The new Yahoo Search service incorporates some of the technology of Inktomi, the search-technology company Yahoo acquired in December. Google is still providing Yahoo's algorithmic search results.
[cbs.marketwatch.com...]
The company said the new search option, which will be rolled out further over the next few days, features a cleaner interface and offers faster ways to find results.It also includes technology Yahoo! acquired last December through its US$235 million purchase of Inktomi's (Nasdaq: INKT - news) consumer search engine business.
[story.news.yahoo.com...]
Does this mean that we will never see Ink results in Yahoo? Yahoo bought only the Ink's technology?
But while Yahoo fights to regain the ground it has lost to Google over the last few years, the company still counts on the company for some of its search results.However, the Sunnyvale, California, company is hoping that the combination of Google and Inktomi technology, as well as its own distinct offerings such as sports scores and yellow pages will put it back on top.
[story.news.yahoo.com...]
Lined up by PR combined with relevance for the specific search term.
For a single word some of my pages that have much higher PR than others rank lower than lower PR pages, but the higher page might mention the word once, while the lower PR page might be all about the term.
However, for pages that have the same amount of use of the word, looks definitely like a best-to-worst PR list.
I haven't been able to figure out how to just list my site pages by PR. domian.com as a search won't do it.
[cnn.com...]
To lessen its dependence on Google, Yahoo last month bought search engine specialist Inktomi for $279.5 million. Yahoo plans to incorporate Inktomi's tools in to its search engine by year's end.
Rich
I think they're surviving 'cause they are Google powered, the day they switch to Inktomi, they go the down again...like MSN
I think they're surviving 'cause they are Google powered, the day they switch to Inktomi, they go the down again...like MSN
It was a no-brainer to optimize for the Yahoo directory and get great rankings and great traffic...once Yahoo actually looked at their own results and saw that if this were allowed to continue their SERPs would degrade seriously and they would lose visitors to deliver ads to...they decided to get on board with Google and deliver better quality search results and ride the popularity of Google's brand to higher ad revenues...
The game was to get into the Yahoo directory, per their instructions, once accepted, tweak the site for Google to crawl (pre-Oct2002 strategy)...Plus...Google seemed to quickly crawl fresh sites in the Yahoo directory...
One must remember that while all of us out here are fighting our battles and winning some and losing some the big players are making closed door deals that will benefit them...first...their user base (the folks who use their service to find information)...second...and maybe all the others folks who use the service to run businesses...or perhaps...short term scams...
It's extremely doubtful if Yahoo will ever revert back to delivering directory results as their primary SERP....just to much crap ended up in that database...they would be taking some serious steps backwards...
just my humble, tired opinions...no offense meant to anyone...
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Related Searches
We'll make some suggestions too. If other people using Yahoo! Search have looked for something similar, links to related searches will appear under the search box at the top of your web results page.
from:http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/basics/basics-04.html
So thats why they look like OV' suggestions
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Nah, just pull out the cc and head to PositionTech ;-)
That's not very reassuring. As much as I understand that search engines need to make money somehow, I don't agree that one should be forced to pay to get listed or continue to be listed!
Too much influence on results particularly by unscrupulous webmasters/sems!
