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9:21 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Now this is interesting.

A site with 40 000 "real" pages and some 80 000 duplicate content pages excluded using robots.txt (it's a forum - see my prior posts about vbulletin) and still some 80 000 duplicate pages that are not yet so excluded.

Additionally some 500 000 non-thread pages also excluded in robots.txt and most of those already delisted. The whole site is listed as www; nothing is listed as non-www at all.

Looking purely at indexed threads:

site:domain.com shows 90 000 www pages all as normal results; including some duplicate content that will eventually be excluded.

site:domain.com -inurl:www shows 24 000 www pages all of which are marked as Supplemental Results and all of which also have an old cache date. This search should show zero results. It certainly should not be showing www pages at all, the search was for "-inurl:www". What is going on?

[edited by: tedster at 8:44 pm (utc) on June 13, 2006]
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6:01 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good Morning Everyone

yip definately 34 DCs now showing the results. The defining factor that I am watching is the DCs starting with 72.** as the copra results havent shown on there at all and still don't but maybe just maybe it is happening just now again we will have to wait with baited breath and see.

Pete

6:52 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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iirc, the copra results were showing on the 72.* last weekend. that is, before they were called copra.
7:11 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Since yesterday my site home page is missing in Google Index, till last week my home page is indexed, now I am seeing only the old 404 pages as supplementals. Is this a kind of penalty?
7:57 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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To all SEO fans,

According to nslookup the results are below:

> nslookup google.com
Server: 66.75.164.90
Address: 66.75.164.90#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: google.com
Address: 64.233.167.99
Name: google.com
Address: 64.233.187.99
Name: google.com
Address: 72.14.207.99

> nslookup www.google.com
Server: 66.75.164.90
Address: 66.75.164.90#53

Non-authoritative answer:
www.google.com canonical name = www.l.google.com.
Name: www.l.google.com
Address: 66.102.7.147
Name: www.l.google.com
Address: 66.102.7.99
Name: www.l.google.com
Address: 66.102.7.104

If I'm not mistaken, the IP's for the lookup for google.com minus the 72.14.207.99 IP are the newest. In other words I think the 64.233.167.99 and 64.233.187.99 IPs are the newest.

Can anyone else come up with different results?

-=-Thanks in Advance
-=-Greg

8:11 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I dont get it, in nov 3 2005 I got hit by the googlebug 302, non www. and a few hijackers only on google, still the site is not ranking again.

The non www issue, hijacking and 302 redirecting issue is cleared, which is great, but still no ranking and now I see every page is supplemental agian, I thought they would clear this problem.

Do ANY here rank again after such a googlebug.

8:12 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Quick question is anyone else see a huge increase in the number of results when searching in google.co.uk I have just done a search for my keywords and the main one has jumped from 14 million to 25 million and from 5 million to 8 million for my other main term. Still on page 1 though so not complaining just intrigued.

Anyone else see this?

Pete

9:00 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

McDar reporting 20 Turd and 35 Copra.

I'd just like G to switch those 20 to Copra and flush the old results away. Then they can go on vacation and leave well alone until November 16th when they will hit us with Big Doodoo.

Sid

9:16 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Pete,

For our main 2 word term:

Copra 6 million

Turd 4.5 million

Sid

9:36 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

A quick question ;-)

On which DCs do you see the most up-to-date cache of your pages?

Thanks!

9:37 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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petehols

Yes, I had a same experience, but I have really bad feelings also.

When I search to my main keyword or parent keyword (example "blue widget"), I seen the result number tripled!

I was on first page, but my site dissapered from SERP for those keywords. Really terrifying.

I done some research with keywords like "little blue widget" or "little blue widget store" but as I see, the number of the results didn't changed, my position still good. My traffic didn't changed also and I hope never will.

So far, all I have done is just submitted my site to several directories with similar anchor text in the past 4 month. I never used blackhat tricks.

I just planned an article campaing, but the time has come, when I don't dare to do anything, because of Google.

9:40 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Zoth, Hissingsid

Thanks for the replies I think google is adding more pages now into the index. Zoth my search terms have increased but luckily my positioning remains the same. I winder if this is them updating the pages that had been dropped from their index?

Pete

9:42 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Having done several searches and researches on my niche, it seems ( in the new Algo ) to me that:

1. reciprocal links are discounted
2. intelligent internal links give you something
3. very important is the history trend of your linkpopularity

Regarding the link trend I checked it with Market Leap (Trend/History report ) and all sites gaining rang have an increasing trend.....

9:46 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Reseller,

I've just done a quick sample and the cache is from 8th June on both sets.

Sid

10:21 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It has now jumped to 30 million sites for 1 search and 9 million for another. On the other hand I have had 25 more pages indexed.

So maybe it can only be a good thing?

Pete

10:52 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I can easily understand where the "TURD' results got its name, but COPRA "definition: the dried meat of the coconut from which oil is extracted" is beyond me.
10:56 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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well you could think of it as the spammers and crap results being the oil extracted from the good healthy meat of the coconut( the good healthy meat being the good results and the non-blach hatters) God I think i am confusing myself now.

Just my thoughts.

Pete

11:08 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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petehall

I hope your right 34 down only 20 more left to go and counting.

Pete

11:54 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hissingsid

"Hi Reseller,

I've just done a quick sample and the cache is from 8th June on both sets."

Which both sets? any specific IP?

Thanks

11:55 am on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have a site that I had to overhaul last Dec so it is real sensitive to changes in the dc right now. I am seeing another set of results this morning. On Turd dc's it ranks 70(+ -), on Copra I am 6, but on 64.233.161.99 (104,147) and 216.239.39.99 (104) this site shows up 4. Anyone else seeing different results on these dc's?
12:05 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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theblackjeep

on both these DCs I am dropping about 3-4 places main keyterm is bottom of page 1 and 2nd main term is down to page 2

Strange also is that there is another 2million results on these DCs compared to Turd and Copra.

Pete

12:05 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I can easily understand where the "TURD' results got its name, but COPRA "definition: the dried meat of the coconut from which oil is extracted" is beyond me.

You need to get the latin definition of "copra" as in "copraphage". Hint the dung beetle is a copraphage. The word phage meaning "eater.

Best wishes

Sid

12:22 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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so - you could say then that people who like those results are copraphiles...
1:50 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Is anyone else seeing a change in their Google title in the new results? Old results had my actual page title as the Google result title. New results have my DMOZ Title. This only happens for my most competitive keyword, and not for any other keywords I have seen. Is anyone else seeing this?
1:55 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Pokerjoker

My title is exactly the same in both sets of results.

Pete

1:56 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, they also changed my snippet that they display.
1:56 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This data center definitely kicks-ass:

66.102.9.104

2:22 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>>>You need to get the latin definition of "copra" as in "copraphage"<<<

Kopra is not latin but greek, as usual -:) from the Greek word kopros, see enchantedlearning.com/subjects/dinosaur/glossary/Coprolite.shtml

In MODERN greek, mainly the plural of the word is now used – “koprana” to describe both animal and human dung. A “copraphage” (koprofagos in greek) is indeed someone eating dung - not seeing anyone here around by the way- oohhh, there, I see a Googler hehehe

“Fage” or "Phage" means “eat!” in the infinitive form.

There is a brand of delicious dairy products, named “FAGE” which are exported from Greece to mainly Europe but perhaps also to USA. Please go to fage.gr, click on “English” – their yoghurt is hhmmmm.

Also see here myword.info/sendword.php?copro_1-a (excerpt:: "copro" is from "kopros" (dung) spoken by people of Greece starting about 1000 B.C.”)

I guess it's nice to learn things while dcwatching, don't you agree?

2:43 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I hope your right 34 down only 20 more left to go and counting.

Well well well, we shall see ;)

3:01 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Kopra is not latin but greek, as usual -:) from the Greek word kopros,

Hi Maria,

That'll teach me to go assuming that a biologist would use latin.

I simply used the word to give the better results a name which represented a more upmarket kind of crap ;)

Best wishes

Sid

3:06 pm on Jun 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I see some small changes on copra DCs... sometimes i am 3, sometimes 4 or 5... in the old set of results i am 28
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