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9:21 pm on Jun 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

Now this is interesting.

A site with 40 000 "real" pages and some 80 000 duplicate content pages excluded using robots.txt (it's a forum - see my prior posts about vbulletin) and still some 80 000 duplicate pages that are not yet so excluded.

Additionally some 500 000 non-thread pages also excluded in robots.txt and most of those already delisted. The whole site is listed as www; nothing is listed as non-www at all.

Looking purely at indexed threads:

site:domain.com shows 90 000 www pages all as normal results; including some duplicate content that will eventually be excluded.

site:domain.com -inurl:www shows 24 000 www pages all of which are marked as Supplemental Results and all of which also have an old cache date. This search should show zero results. It certainly should not be showing www pages at all, the search was for "-inurl:www". What is going on?

[edited by: tedster at 8:44 pm (utc) on June 13, 2006]
[edit reason] split into new thread [/edit]

4:31 pm on June 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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hmmm....
2008?
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Just saw the gray "English" thing has returned. Did anyone ever determine the significance, if any, of its departure and re-appearance?
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As far as I know, it only appears when you access a datacentre directly by its IP address.
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g1smd,

I have been tracking 69 datacenters directly by IP address and it just disappeared over the last couple of days and now has come back. Frankly, I just don't get it;)

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In my narrow niche, 'new' results appear on 26 out of 55 DCs : 47.3%
The other 29 DCs have the previous (and better IMHO) results.

This looks like a small retreat from Friday, when 'new' was slightly over half. -Larry

[edited by: tedster at 7:28 am (utc) on June 14, 2006]

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larryhatch,

Could you please either post the DC's IPs or sticky them to me? Thanks in advance.

12:18 am on June 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone have any idea when to expect a back link update?
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coming back now?

i see them on 28 DCs.

......DC watching is so stupid and futile.

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......DC watching is so stupid and futile.

Then why are you watching them?! The funny thing is earlier there was a thread about how stupid it was as well and yet those results that us DC watchers see have been and continue to be showing up on Google and it's sister portals. If it's really that stupid then how about not contributing your two cents here?!

Sorry if I'm being a little direct but when people state that DC watching is futile and stupid it offends me because I watch it religiously and it indeed has never proved worthless to any of my sites that I've watched the last few years through the course of the many updates.

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I don't think DC watching is stupid at all.
If my traffic falls to a fraction of its former rate, I want to know why, period.
I could just call Google and see my places in the SERPs, IF there was only one DC.
Since there are dozens, <tool sites> are the only way to see if a new algo is spreading or whatever.

Futile? In one way maybe. We cannot directly influence Googles algorithms and their propagation.
We CAN look for subtleties in the 'new' serps, possibly making adjustments for those.
If that does any good, I can't call it futile. -Larry

[edited by: tedster at 7:36 am (utc) on June 14, 2006]

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i can see 30 DCs now showing new results, so looks like they're coming back.

and the stupid and futile comment was alluding to the fact that i cant keep a straight face when posting DC watch results :)

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One of my new sites has got Page Rank 5 now - is this an update?
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[64.233.179.104...] is down. Well it is clicking on the link on google serps on this dc.

[edited by: sandpetra at 6:47 am (utc) on June 12, 2006]

[edited by: lawman at 12:04 am (utc) on June 14, 2006]

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I'm seeing page rank results for another new site, all internal pages although the home page doesnt have pr.

Seeing weird results on seo tools page rank search tool.

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Good morning all

still seeing new results on 30 DCs but i am seeing no fluctuation on any f my sites regards page rank dunno whats happening to everyone elses.

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well, there definitely is a change...
my one-year old site was not even in the first 2000 last week, now it's at an all time high at page #17! break out the champagne... LOL!
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Hi,

In another thread someone reported that 66.249.93.104 is showing the old results but in fact they are more like some reults I saw a few weeks ago.

On that DC for my main target 2 word term there is a site which is there by virtue of having bought many backlinks from unrelated topic pages which use that term in the link text. There are two lisitngs with inset secondary pages and a few review and directory type sites in the top 20. Many of my serious competitors who should be there are not there, there's a smattering of authority but the omission of some serious competitor sites is unfair to both the site oweners and Google users. We remain at #4 but what is around us is less relevant than the old results where we are at #4 and nowhere near as good quality in the new results where we are at #1.

On the new results we move to the top but other good sites that should be there also rise into the top 10.

Are we seeing a third set of results or has one of the two changed significantly?

Best wishes

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I now only see the results on 26 DCs.

Looks like they might be in retreat. Wonderful.

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Sorry if this is a stupid question, but it's my first poste here :o/

Where do i find a coplete list of all the datacenters?

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<snip> has 55 DCs you can check.

i've seen them fluctuate between 25-31 DCs - can't really say at this stage whether or not they are retreating or propogating further.

[edited by: lawman at 6:06 pm (utc) on June 13, 2006]
[edit reason] No URL Drops Per TOS #13 [/edit]

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I think they are still tweaking. I see pages pop up and disappear again.

I would not be surprised if the results go back to the old results again but I'm sure there will be an update soon which will propagate these new results in a fine tuned version.

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i am still seeing these new results on 30 DCs don't know whats happening I think they are still tweaking and they are jumping on and off of some DCs will just have to wait and see it will all settle down and then we can make better judgements of what has happened.

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Is google interested in having good results at TOP10 in their competitive searches?

Google is testing new results, but... what impact have them into advertisings? What CTR have them with the new results set?

Do you think that better results will lower CTR in advertisings (and google revenues)?
And more important: What google will do?

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Uhhh! :)! :) just show for a split of a second the biggest scam ("authority site ")I have reported as one of the biggest spamers on the web ,disappeared at my default .com .Well he was back after a few seconds (but if you see even for a minisecond something that is not your fantasy) it means that something real is goin on ,I guess ..
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I'm seeing a little different mix on 216.239.59.99 and 216.239.59.147 -- for one KW these DC's give the "new" results; but for another KW they display results that are very similar to, but slightly different from, the "new" results. I noticed because one site I'm interested in drops from #4 on the new results (it's #5 on the old results) to #19 and the listing is for a deeper and slightly less relevant page.
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I would not be surprised if the results go back to the old results again but I'm sure there will be an update soon which will propagate these new results in a fine tuned version.

I agree totally - it's only a matter of time.

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Well whatever they do, I can't see it being any worse or better than what is around.

Loads of huge sites, buying links, spammy sites are dominating my sector.

If they are buying links, I'm gonna sell them and make me some pocket money.

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Pico_Train

"If they are buying links, I'm gonna sell them and make me some pocket money."

Just wondering, why it took you soooooo long to figure it out :-)

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ive had a significant rise in the number of known brands asking me to place a paid link to them.
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soapystar

"ive had a significant rise in the number of known brands asking me to place a paid link to them."

You just go ahead and make some $$$$ for the kids university costs. Just don't tell anybody that I have suggested that :-)

Long Live BigDaddy Linking Spirit!
Long live the free paid-links market!

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