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If you pay $200/mo for Urchin now, you may want to reconsider.
[edited by: vitaplease at 8:02 am (utc) on Nov. 14, 2005]
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Unfortunately I don't see an edit message link in my posts. :(
Maybe it's not YOUR data Google is interested in seeing, perhaps they're more interested in seeing overall how much PPC action is going to other PPC programs like Yahoo, MSN, etc.
Just a thought.
A lot of web site owners don't buy Ad words cause sometimes they are a bit expensive and if you don't know what they are doing for you then you discontinue using them once you blow a bit of money with no measurable results. With Urchin 6 you can see what words make you money an which ones are costing you. Now you will feel confident in using Ad words thus more revenue to Google. Brilliant
Yes, its frustrating to wait to see data but they only just launched the thing, its free, its been swamped by sweaty grubby hands who want their data NOW!
I've even seen people posting non-existant for claims, for example, there is a complaint about not seeing hits by country! Are they kidding you not only see each country but each state!
Dont even want to get started on the conspiracy theories! Anyone ever thought that this is actually a good thing? That maybe Google are not trying to monpolise but help? What happened to optimism? Oh no Google have relesed a fantastic bit of kit for free! Booo! Hisss!
I just wanted to test it out. I think it's got great potential. But I don't think it offers much more than the Log analyzer I have now. The biggest thing for me would be to check stats while on the road away from my laptop.
i'll keep trying it to see how it all goes, but at the moment i'm swaying towards removing it from my sites. it all seems geared towards marketing people who don't know anything about computers :(
Once the systems are tuned up and the bugs worked out (and they are getting fixed quickly from what i've seen) it'll get even better i'm sure.
seems geared towards marketing people
It is supposed to be for marketing people / executive / and webmasters (as per the report categories)
Old skool marketers that don't know about computers will be getting statistics they need to improve and understand online marketing better...
Giving such a valuable tool free to AdWords clients is definitely a reason to join AdWords - and for publishers that is also a good thing.
don't know anything about computers
that would be the executive reports... LoL
what I think is great is that even the execs will be able to make better decisions regarding their websites - given the clear explanations of each report.
and the webmasters and marketers can get what they want / need out of the suits to make the site / sytems / marketing perform better....
There are also issues with the way it sorts the sites, and associates the accounts, but we haven't worked all that out yet, so it might be operator error.
The admin has told me all along that it was still gathering data, even after it actually was. I think that message is stuck to 'on'.
a simplified navigation to reaching the required common stats would help... too many report options and the layperson won't know where to look...
common clicks:
Where is my traffic coming from? > link to full report
What traffic is producing sales? > link to full report
What are our most popular pages? > link to full report
Seems to be a lot of negativity over an awesome FREE product!
I would say this is the first monopolistic move they've made that doesn't pass the sniff test even with all the altruisitic double speak they served up @ PubCon. It ranks right up there with Microsoft giving away browsers and email to decimate competitors back in the 90s, it smells.
Considering Google probably just tanked the business of a bunch of analytics companies, probably putting a lot of people out of work, and cost a bunch of stockholders in those companies many millions of dollars, I can't say I'm thrilled with this development and they can never use that mantra "Do No Evil" ever again with a straight face.
Doesn't mean I won't use it, but I don't have to like how they went about it.
[edited by: incrediBILL at 5:41 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2005]
I feel sorry for Clicktracks and the other good analytics companies...I'm sure they will innovate further, but I wonder if they kind of foresaw this when GOOG bought Urchin.