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3:59 am on Nov 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It looks like Google wasted no time integrating Urchin into their product lineup:

[google.com...]

If you pay $200/mo for Urchin now, you may want to reconsider.

[edited by: vitaplease at 8:02 am (utc) on Nov. 14, 2005]
[edit reason] link to source itself [/edit]

7:04 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm having detection problems as well. Been a couple of hour now and it still says it hasn't found the code on my page.
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I have it going on 3 sites.. its only started gathering analytics on 1. We'll see how it does by morning.
7:14 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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podman

I had a similar problem, i emailed google about it and back came the reply... their tech team is looking into the issue.

this btw, is my 1st post here... love to be at WebmasterWorld!

7:15 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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yea same here, this is strange , glad im not alone though, hopefully google sets its act together
7:30 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thanks and welcome seosutra , nice first post, saves me time form emailing google :)
7:34 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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my site has started to aquire stats now. But I cant find that overlay feature that was there 2 days ago. does anyone else see it?
8:06 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Cool.. I can see stats for my sites too, though it's not showing the geo-location map. This is gonna give lots of useful details about the site once more data comes in.
9:38 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Im also getting:

Tracking Unknown
The Google Analytics tracking code has not been detected on your website's home page. For Analytics to function, you or your web administrator must add the code to each page of your website.

It is on a php page, but have inserted as requested after meta. I assume this is a google issue?

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Yep, me too. I've inserted the code in an osCommerce
page (spit) and Google can't find it no matter what.
10:18 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Starting to see statistics for one of two sites I installed it on yesterday. It seems that it takes several hours before it recognizes that the site exists, then several more before the data begin to appear.

Man, there are broken links all over the place: in the help system, in the "features" section; sidebars overlap the main column text. This is *very* beta in terms of presentation. I've never seen Google release something that seems to be so poorly debugged.

I haven't used Urchin before, so I may be missing something: is there a place you can see what keywords were used to find your site, or is that not something that is recorded?

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Brett,

It looks like we need a new section in "The Google World" for Urchin or Google Analytics.

I have all sorts of questions.
How to make the best use of this new tool.
Understanding the various options, etc.

Worth considering.

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There are a bunch of broken links on this site. I'm frankly shocked that Google put this out before it fully had the site ready to go. Usually, they are slow to release things just so they can make sure all is working before it goes public. That said, if all isn't working before the weekend, I'd be shock again! :)
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>> I'm frankly shocked that Google put this out before it fully had the site ready to go

Christmas data :)

11:53 am on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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It looks like we need a new section in "The Google World" for Urchin or Google Analytics.

Tropical Island - yes. I wrote him about this yesterday. We will see.

12:01 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm finally seeing some data. The stats start from Nov 14 (Monday).

The whole thing is a bit complex, but also very powerful. The UI looks great. Nice job, Google.

I agree on the need for a GA-specific subforum here.

12:27 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh please someone help me. :0) I set up email notification for this post and now can not for the life of me find out where to turn it off. I have been around and around in help and support and do not see the link about email notification in the forum as the instructions say. This is a hot forum and I am being innundated with posts! Help!
12:31 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Another question I have set up the Analytics tracking code in my head tags correctly, but I have one common PHP include that generates my header file for over 400 pages. Now in regular Urchin, I have installed the tracking code on my one template header file and can receive stats just fine, but with Google Analytics, the control panel keeps telling me that it can not find the code on my home page. When I view source, it is there.

What are others in similar situations doing. Analytics help has been no help. I have sent a note and IF they respond will post what they say, but in the meantime, what are you doing?

12:47 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Looks like Google's "CHECK STATUS" function is broken.

After adding the tracking code to your main index page and other interior pages between <head> and </head>; Google does not recognize the code.

I checked my logs and it appears that Google is not even accessing those pages. There are absolutely no requests by any Google IP address for those pages.

So, perhaps, Google has decided to shut off new accounts being added until it gets the bugs out.

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Problems I can see:

301 content has a bounce rate? :\

With loads of content a bounce can be actually quite positive as the visitor is satisfied with the content and found what s/he needed.

PI's differ significantly from Adsense PIs.

Neat is the feature where they say which URLs your code appears. Like babelfish altavista etc. So you might be better able to catch content thieves ..

Still scary though that G plans to use this data to deliver G search results. I assume adsense publishers already have pages that are rated with something like Urchin as valuable content and not valuable content. :\

Coming from a stats background myself I wonder if they ever publish how THEY interprete the data and why?

Stats is about correctly interpreting data. I assume this is plugged into a genetic or bayesian profit or adwords return CTR maximising algorithm.

Hmm ..

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I checked my logs and it appears that Google is not even accessing those pages. There are absolutely no requests by any Google IP address for those pages.

As far as I understood this the javascript code is executed Google server side there is no need for them to access your server. The client that comes to your pages contacts Google and they get their data from that.

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hmmm very interesting thread. Google really won't stop until they have a complete monopoly online :D
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"I'm frankly shocked that Google put this out before it fully had the site ready to go "

After Jagger we can see they are not too embarassed about showing their "Work in Progress" to the world.

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Same problem here: I added analytics code to 3 of my sites 4 hours ago, but there still a "Tracking has not been validated" problem.
2:28 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I add my code to my site the very first day it came out and I am still seeing the "Waiting for Data - Analytics has been successfully installed and data is being gathered now. Your first reports will be ready within twelve hours." message.

I emailed them, but have not heard anything back.

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I've got data now, after quite a while, but I'm not so sure about it's accuracy compared to my historical "trends".

Very different data to what I am used to seeing, anybody else seeing this?

2:36 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just checked the report. It seems accurate.
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Well it looks like the data is showing up now. Pretty awesome GUI!
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I can look at these reports all day and I don't have tons of traffic to analyze. It's the most comprehensive package I've ever used.
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I can't wait until it works so that I can take a look. I signed up on Monday and it still says "Waiting for Data."
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Ok, so I'm getting reports, but they are lagging. Now I've linked google analytics to my adwords account, but It isn't allowing me to turn on "Destination URL auto-tagging" in my user preferences. I've got 40k keywords, no way I'm going to add those params by hand.

For those of you who haven't used urchin before, basically there are several query parameters that google analytics (e.g. urchin) will use to map your adwords campaign/keywords to your visitor information.

I believe the adwords user preference, "destination url auto-tagging", (when it is working) will automatically append tracking variables to your adwords destination urls. To get a better idea of what this means, take a look at:

[google.com...]

I use urchin at work, but couldn't afford it for my hobby affiliate site. I'm am very impressed that Google has made it free. There is a lot of useful information available in the urchin reports.

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