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We need to keep this thread focused on the followings:
- Changes on your own site ranking on the serps (lost & gained positions or disappearance of the site).
- Changes you have noticed on the new serps (both google.com and your local google site) especially in regards to the nature of the top 10 or 20 ranking sites.
- Stability of the serps. I.e do you get the same serps when you run the same query within the same day or 2-3 successive days (both google.com and your local google site).
- Effective ethical measures to deal with the above mentioned changes.
Thanks.
Sorry to hear the troubles that others are having (had them for 9 months and it was very depressing), but the site I was having probs with, is doing very good on this, and other DCs. For the past few days it has been constant on all. I have a bias of course, and I'm talking just about my site, so take it with a grain of salt. Good luck to all.
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GoogleGuy: how does one get back the daily fresh tag? Almost 80% of my homepage is changed daily, new pages are added too, and I have over 250 unique backlinks from all sources. I lost it a few months back.
[edited by: walkman at 11:36 pm (utc) on June 15, 2005]
I expect the data at 64.233.167.104 to spread to other data centers in the next few days
That would be a massive improvement and by far better results than what is currently shown on Google.com , it looks either the same as before the update or very similar.
If it is a rollback it is the sensible thing to do, they need to re-evalute the usefullness of LSI and other tweaks before trying a big update like the one which is currently shown.
I vote for 64.233.167.104 - it's miles ahead of the spammy rubbish currently shown.
How can we tell if these results will spread to Google.com?
Google's love affair with blog comments and aggressive attack on authority linking is just so dumb it defies description.
Even if they are still miles ahead of the competition, Google needs to reevaluate the basic concepts behind its algorithm. You simply can't target quality and reward garbage that simplisticly manipulates you and expect to make money forever.
I expect the data at 64.233.167.104 to spread to other data centers in the next few days
With all respect to those less than pleased with this DC, GG has given me the best news I've had in weeks.
Anyone else *pleased* with this DC?
In any event, I'd like to day 'thank you' to GG for shedding a little light on the process. We're still going to be anxious, but at least we'll be anxious for the right reasons!
Billy Baston: Anyone else *pleased* with this DC?
Definitely pleased... our MIA site has returned to the top 2 or 3 pages again. Just hope it will regain 1st page ranking as the allin's seem to show. I imagine this update is a ways from being over yet.
Still seeing quite a bit of spam in the first few pages, hopefully this will be weeded out on this DC over the next few days...
Googleguy, do we still have to go through hundreds of page and change all the relative links to absolute? I did the 301 redirect to www.
Anyone else *pleased* with this DC?
I'm pleased with this DC. I'm out of the sandbox with this update.
1. A neighbor friend writes this really cool program called HTML validator and he gave me a copy to try out. It found tons of HTML erorrs, tag suggestions, etc. and I fixed all of my major pages.
2. I belong to MSN Direcotory which let's you use their tools and I've optimized for that as well.
3. I bought this program to submitt to a bunch of sites and guess what, it has suggestions too and I validate.
4. I have >150 incoming links and am listed in DMOZ, Yahoo Directory, and more.
5. I have a directory on my site where I trade links. About 15 so far, but hopefully more.
So now that I've done 1-5, I expected my rankings to improve and so far they've gotten even worse.
Today I did an XML site map on Google. The only site that has done well so far with my 1-5 updates is MSN.
Yahoo is on and off. Sometimes we are on page 1, sometimes 80 or so.
Google though is going south fast. I even use Adwords and spend a lot there.
I think I may need some professional help!
Mike
Anyone else *pleased* with this DC?
(64.233.167.104)
Yeah, real pleased. Not. I'm at position number 859 on this DC for kws I rank #2 on MSN and #6 on Yahoo. Maybe that's the wrong comparison to make, I don't know.
Look at the cache dates. If they are 6 months old then it is an old index.
Is there any significance to the particular date itself? I am finding most of my pages with the dates Jan 26 and 27 with the exception of my main page (recent cache) and 1 other page.
Mind you Jan 26 and 27 seem like an improvement from the cache dates previously attached to most of my pages dating back to Oct '04 and Mar '04.
Any Jan 26/27 importance?
g1smd - btw, my non-www problem pages went away last week. What's left finally went from url only to url and description though still virtually all supplemental.
Anyone else *pleased* with this DC?
I see very few changes for the keywords and keyphrases that I track [says EFV with a sigh of relief].
'course now they're never gonna come after you EFV. ;-)
Was just poking around on 64.233.167.104
sites with my exact company name went from 5600 to 12300 - interesting.
Did a search for one of my page's keywords. I AM #1!
I am afraid to look at any more.. can I send someone some keyword phrases and let me know where I am :)
I do believe in Google
I do believe in Google
I do believe in Google
Here's an idea. Do nothing! Google likes stability. Massive changes to site layout, design, linking structure etc, only makes you look like you're not ready for prime time in the eyes of Google. You'll be on that roller coaster forever.
Cache date 10 Jun
I recently did the google site maps thing.
Got all my pages back in 3 days from url-only...
Likely a coincidence but my site also appears to be recovering in rankings.
I've got a spare couch you can borrow :)
As an aside..
I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here about cache dates. Are all you guys sitting and waiting for google to sort this out?
I was totally sandboxed. Declining serps, pages going supplemental, can't find domain.. and all the other symptoms. Hadn't had a visitor from google for over 4 months, only 3 visits from googlebot this year.
I created my sitemap.xml (by hand like the rest of my website) and uploaded it to Google Sitemaps. It took less than 24 hours before googlebot was sniffing around my site and I saw some of my new pages in the serps. Within 72 hours (I took a break.. it might have been sooner), my entire website has been indexed and shows up in the serps, all with new caches, the works.
Ok, my serps ranking aren't what they once were (say a year ago... even with better seo now), but at least my whole site is in the index with fresh caches 'n all. Now it's up to me :(
why don't you think they are related? I'm thinking that sitemaps are partly in response to the overwhelming requests G must get to index/reindex/evaluate sites. This automates that.
Did a search for one of my page's keywords. I AM #1!I am afraid to look at any more.. can I send someone some keyword phrases and let me know where I am
I found that not only my homepage is back to the top 2 or 3 but searches for information on all the pages on the site are bringing up good results on 64.233.167.104
I am going to feel a LOT better when this starts showing up on regular Google searches though.
As for me, I went from #1 to #101 currently for a key phrase. I am not at all satisfied, but there's not much I can or even want to do except get away from Google and their overrated, easily-manipulated, brain-damaged, webamster-killing search engine.
I would love to be wrong.
Will these results be propogated thru the system or is it a reserve backup datacenter in case the whole Bourbon Update crashes?
What is the significance of 64.233.167.104?
I am only seeing an increase in content, the serps appear to be the same to me as on the other DC's.
In general, this update has brought back several very old sites for me that I gave up on a year and a half ago.
So I am now rapidly building fresh content for them :)
Thanks G
Great sunny day here where I live and I hear the birds singing of joy!
Say welcome to The Mother of All DCs; 64.233.167.104
At last... Cavemanīs Fat Lady had sung..
And Thanks GoogleGuy for bringing us the news ;-)
When I asked you yesterday about 64.233.167.104 you told me that you liked it!
Should I expect to see a happy Clint today ;-)
And
Dayo_UK...Dayo_UK...Dayo_UK
Do you like what you see on The Mother of All DCs?
And my daily standard question:
How does Google UK look like today?
It looks GOOD. Actually, great! It's the first hope I've had in weeks.
And something is changing, we doubled our traffic today, and revenue went up somewhat - not enough, but its something.
This would be very helpful for our immediate future.
>I recently did the google site maps thing.
Got all my pages back in 3 days from url-only..<
This sounds very interesting. I read also on the Sitemap thread something encouraging. So Iīm gonna add it to the our Checklist!
