Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
We need to keep this thread focused on the followings:
- Changes on your own site ranking on the serps (lost & gained positions or disappearance of the site).
- Changes you have noticed on the new serps (both google.com and your local google site) especially in regards to the nature of the top 10 or 20 ranking sites.
- Stability of the serps. I.e do you get the same serps when you run the same query within the same day or 2-3 successive days (both google.com and your local google site).
- Effective ethical measures to deal with the above mentioned changes.
Thanks.
had a quick look at 64.233.167.104 - very odd from our perspective - our 2 year old site that jumped to #1-10 is now showing up as URL's only on this DC - not on some others. Older site seems about the same(ish) i.e badly placed
Agree - not over yet.
Yep - certainly not over by a long way IMO.
Dont know where we are on GG timescale. 4.5 of 3.5 :)
On topic: Cannot see changes on the DCs you've mentioned. Could that be a regional matter for UK only?
"Cunning Plan 3" being still being prepared though.
"Cunning Plan 4" a new cunning plan (!) is getting our legal eagle hitting those who have copied our content ( pages not paragraphs ).
One of our sites that went MIA during the Bourbon update is showing a comeback on a couple datacenters:
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.99
Anyone else's MIA site doing better on these DC's? Our site was out of the Top-300 and now shows page 2/3 for many terms it was previously page 1 before Bourbon.Call me a Canuck but I think making changes due to Bourbon is several weeks premature now... let this one settle some more.
Hell YES! Canuck what do you know about these DC's? I'm back to some of my old top positions at [64.233.167.104...] .! 1st and 2nd on the first page for my biz name, 1st on the 1st page for several search phrases, and at least on the 1st page for many other search phrases! 64.233.167.99 shows about the same results. My luck these DC's are only in the "Great White North", but I hope to God these hold up.
I did for your company name though on all dcs a few days ago (friday i think) :) - is different serps for your site deffo on that DC :)
I'm not sure what that means. ;)
errr - those dcs are not so good for me though :(
Something a bit strange about those dcs - as mentioned above - looks like they are digging up even more supplemental pages!
Wow - this update appears to be far from over.
Yeah, I saw that too. Does that include those two IP's Canuck Posted? But today at Google.com here I'm gone for my biz name. I'm trying to determine the significance and importance of those two IP's. That DC check tool at mcdar dot net shows I'm at the top spot for a monitored phrase for two more IP's (64.233.161.99 & 64.233.161.105), yet when I go to the IP's and search, I'm no where to be found. So, something is odd there.
Mmm - dont know what to make of this.....
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.99
Anyone else's MIA site doing better on these DC's?
Yes! For the first time since this began, those DC's have my site back at #1. Did a bit of checking with a DC tool, and more DC's are also showing these results. AND it's showing up for searches too. Now I'm cautiously optimistic. :)
LisaB
but that still doesn't explain things, and I'd really like to understand the process behind what happened.
Yes mine! They look a bit pre-bourbon though to tell you truth. Not sure I will be getting excited about it just yet.
Back on the above too but where and when are these from?
And it looks like its spreading. So much for thinking its over.
Cant work it out. There are some funny numbers returned for some searches - and the amount of supplementals is unbelievable.
Just looks like 4 C Classes and steady on them for a while.
[edited by: Dayo_UK at 2:15 pm (utc) on June 15, 2005]
That's what I've been trying to find out with all of these IP's. Go to Y (or G) and search for "datacenter quick check" and you'll see the URL.
>Dont know where we are on GG timescale. 4.5 of 3.5 :) <
The 3.5 should have been completed by now. What you all see now is what our good friend GG called "everflux" which should follow the 3.5 to the time of PubCon around 22nd June 2005.
>"Cunning Plan 3" being still being prepared though. <
Included in our checklist of how to deal with consequences of Bourbon.
- Transfer your affected site to a spare/emergency domain
Very soon several publishers are going to look at this point as a final solution.
However, I would be grateful if you or the other friends write a 101 of how to do it in practice most effectively. Are you keeping the old domain just for Yahoo, MSN etc... and excluding Googlebot from it? etc..
Thanks folks.
Perhaps Google did a partial fix to sort out the sites effected at the beginning of Bourbon.
Certainly has not fixed the problem for sites that were effected before that start of Bourbon...but I guess these sites have further to come back :(
But time will tell.
>Reseller - this is not everflux :)<
I was just about to write "Rotaing Algos" instead of "everflux"....but then remembered that you still wish to wait more before joining us in the "Rotaing Algos Odd Fellows" ;-)
No prob if I decide finally to go ahead and it works!
Just been talking to an Affiliate Manger in a certain European country. We don't use them much.
Most of their UK sites have been affected.
As a post above - the people posting here could be only the "tip of the iceburg"
These centers have me back on top for my website name - first time since December. It looks like I am out of the sandbox on these centers too. Are these handling 302s better?
It is amazing. I checked our traffic logs for December. On one given day we received over 16,000 visitors from Google. We are now down to about 200 per day. It seems that Google is trying to totally eliminate any results for our site from the SERPS. We are all white hat informational site with unique articles. We were even selected as a test site for Adsense beta functionality. Yahoo, MSN, and ASK still provide great traffic. Altavista has now officially passed Google in number of refs.
Pleased to hear it.
Just about to launch into a rant (first ever rant on WebmasterWorld too) along the lines of:-
"It certainly looks like Google might be working on a fix for sites that were effected at the start of Bourbon - but what about all us others who have had problems since December and reporting them with little or no action taken."
Lets hope that they fix all the problems sites have been having since December and Allgera too.
Sigh - Looks like the people who have suffered the longest have some more suffering to do!
[edited by: Dayo_UK at 2:45 pm (utc) on June 15, 2005]
