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[edited by: Marcia at 10:02 am (utc) on Dec. 30, 2002]
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I do depend on the internet for survival but not google.
Some of my clients may have become dependant on it, but I am sure they would all survive without google as they did once before.
but how many of you here are totally depend on Google...
not totally but a lot.
How many of you have hired an extra guy because of the traffic Google is giving you? Are you getting dependant?
(If you have not hired an extra guy because of Google traffic, read here) [webmasterworld.com] ;)
Search engines (google) develops first time visitors/customers... more specifically once only visitors/customers.
If you have a web site (highly ranked) today's traffic should be tomorrow "loyal markets".
If however, all or most of these are just "once only visitors/customers" the fault lies within your marketability and not Google dominance.
Google and all other search engines "will change" to meet market demand, this is guaranteed.
If your market demand relies totally on Google you are not motivating visitors, customers to return, to refer others, to hold you as a reliable and trustworthy vendor... and no hope for the future.
No, I didn't. Do you have to belong to a secret club to get there? Please provide a link to the Yahoo SERPs where your site is "at number one in Yahoo even before the Yahoo/Google listings". Send it to firstname.lastname@example.org
I'm very, very curious to see this.
I think google is slowly giving me more visitors every month, climbing to 25 %
Very good point! Here I was feeling OK until you pointed this out. Although I'm not totally dependent on Google for traffic - I bet a large proportion of unsolicited links have come from visibility on Google. Some more research called for!
At the moment Google provides the best ROI so it is the area we concentrate on. Given no Google we would place much more emphasis on the techniques giving the next best ROI.
MSN is good, as is local networking (offline technique)
We could probably survive even if the public internet disappeared.
Back to the thread- I thought that our sites were completely dependent on Google but when one of them got pr 0'ed around 5 months ago I was expecting to deal with a huge hole in our business sources. But, no, everything worked out ok. We were not as dependent on Google as we thought- we just focused on other avenues- and we are still doing good without them. Getting back in would be a bonus, but not a critical issue.
In other words, if I get dropped by Google I'm completely stuffed.
I've gone down the Inktomi, Zeal, Findwhat, Kanoodle and ODP routes but the traffic doesn't exactly amount to a whole hill of beans.
I keep trying to get my company to help me with marketing in other areas, but they just aren't listening. I'm not sure we are going to make it.
I have been a keen reader, user of the info on this site, known by some of you, but never participated in the site, well the New Year is upon us.....
It seems very obvious from this thread that most people are getting lots of business from google, great, but scary. I have two trains of though:
Milk google for everything you can now, as one day the rules will change. Accept that this is how it is and your eggs are all in one basket, but the google spider controls your revenue. Get in quick, make your money and get out.
The second option is to try everything else to get traffic, that is not google associated. ie ppc's, inktomi, affiliates, etc, etc. One day the rules will change and you wil win some and loose others, but your business will continue on.
Either option is viable, as long as you accept the risks. My personal preference is the second one, it allows me not to care, THAT MUCH, what happens with google.
Have a good one and thanks for all the great info.
Clearly a new site would normally have limited direct or favicon referrals thus developing Google referrals (and others) is extremely important.
But over time if your direct or favicon referrals do not improve something is wrong.
If Google is producing 80% of your new visitation this is exceptional unless that same 80% is for total visitation. Few businesses can sustain "once only" for very long.