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Everflux - October 2002 mid-month Google spidering and minor updates

Tracking Google activity between regular monthly updates



7:28 pm on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member marcia is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

Every month we have a lot of reports and questions about mid-month additions and changes in the Google index. Last month we started consolidating them into one thread so all the information would be easier to find and be especially helpful to those new to Google or our Google News forum.

You can refer to September's Everflux / mid-month changes [webmasterworld.com] to see the previous pattern, which is one of the primary reasons we're trying to keep them all together.

To recap:

1.The Monthly Update
There's one major Google update per month, starting somewhere between the 20th and the 28th. It generally takes several days to settle, at which time the data migrates to Google's partner sites.

2. The Monthly Crawl
The major crawl takes place at right around this time. With some it's been reported to start at the same time or just before the update begins, while others are not crawled until afterward. This continues for several days, and there's been some conjecture that PR might possibly have something to do with the timing.

3. Mid-month activity, referred to as Everflux.
All during the month between updates there has been some spidering, sites added, and minor position changes. This is related to Google keeping their search results "minty fresh" but while minor ranking changes occur, this does not affect the entire index.

It's worked well, so we'll continue to do this now, in October. This is where we can post what we experience and observe, to compare and discuss it among ourselves. We'll again confine it all to one thread so it's simpler to keep track of the information and observations we share that are so important to us all.

Note: We'll be moving some threads onto this one, as we did last month, as well as for the update itself.

We sincerely thank you for your contributions to our collective knowledge and understanding and wish you all good luck with your sites.


12:30 am on Oct 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Jeremy, I think you're right on. I saw this today for a couple of very small keywords, only a couple hundred results.

I don't know much about everflux but this seems like this is it. I'd never seen it before because I don't usually perform such small queries, but maybe that's why they've added it for small queries, to supplement the results.


5:32 am on Oct 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hi All!

There is something strange going on with my site's ranks in Google which I hadn't ever seen before. Initially I attributed it to Google's midcycle random updations, but its too frequent to attribute to that.

My site has about 30 Keyphrases ranked within top 10, which mainly come from 3 content rich pages in the site. But every 2 or 3 days they all disappear and the count becomes 3 keyphrases within 10. This status remains for about 2 or 3 days and again I have 30 Keyphrases within 10! This happened about 8 times in the last 30 days! Once it was even more crazy. Morning at 10 o'clock 30 were within 10. At noon it became 3. Again in the evening back to 30 only to disappear in the night! Has this happened to anyone and could share your experience?
By the way, I don't use any software to learn the rank status and do it manually.

Thank You


5:48 am on Oct 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member jdmorgan is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member


It's likely that you are seeing the effects of "fresh" listings in google. You can determine whether this is true by checking for a date next to your URL in the search results, and correlating that with whether your rank is better or worse. Do a site search here on WebmasterWorld for " fresh listings Google [searchengineworld.com]" and similar, and you'll find a lot of info.



9:01 am on Oct 23, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Thanx Jim,

Yes there is "fresh" listing with date, as this site is a PR 5 site. But some how I can't correlate this to the ranks variation. Most of the sites I handle are of PR 5 or more and have this "Fresh" listing, but seldom are there any such variations within an updation cycle. Since this happens with regularity over 2 or 3 days( not every day), with absolutely no changes in the content or design, can't attribute this to daily "Fresh" listing. Also these ranks come from sub URLs not the home page.

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