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You can refer to September's Everflux / mid-month changes [webmasterworld.com] to see the previous pattern, which is one of the primary reasons we're trying to keep them all together.
To recap:
1.The Monthly Update
There's one major Google update per month, starting somewhere between the 20th and the 28th. It generally takes several days to settle, at which time the data migrates to Google's partner sites.
2. The Monthly Crawl
The major crawl takes place at right around this time. With some it's been reported to start at the same time or just before the update begins, while others are not crawled until afterward. This continues for several days, and there's been some conjecture that PR might possibly have something to do with the timing.
3. Mid-month activity, referred to as Everflux.
All during the month between updates there has been some spidering, sites added, and minor position changes. This is related to Google keeping their search results "minty fresh" but while minor ranking changes occur, this does not affect the entire index.
It's worked well, so we'll continue to do this now, in October. This is where we can post what we experience and observe, to compare and discuss it among ourselves. We'll again confine it all to one thread so it's simpler to keep track of the information and observations we share that are so important to us all.
Note: We'll be moving some threads onto this one, as we did last month, as well as for the update itself.
We sincerely thank you for your contributions to our collective knowledge and understanding and wish you all good luck with your sites.
Welcome to WebmasterWorld [webmasterworld.com], skirope.
You're describing the 'Fresh' listings. See Marcia's Google Everflux [webmasterworld.com] thread and my Google Fresh Listings [webmasterworld.com] explanation.
KJP
On my site, while the links haven't changed (the only true way to tell when the update has started), I'm seeing that it is shuffling stuff. On www I have 24K pages in the index. www2 and 3 I've only got 14K and that keeps fluctuatiing. I'm guessing they're shuffling my pages that have been FRESHED this month into one of the other indexes to get the most current one into the update. I'm guessing on that, though. It could be any number of things.
All I know is that this is all typical of the days leading to the dance.
G.
"try the search with &hl=de added to the Google search URL. "
Basically, for some search phrases you can get very different results if you change your interface language to German or some other non-English languages. Just by adding &hl=de to the URL of the Google results page for a search such as hotel SomeCountry the results can be seen without the new filter.
Is this the "everflux" I keep reading about or should I be concerned?
What kind of update is this? Will it stop at any time. It's like that for 3 days, I wonder when it will stop. I think this is a kind of penalty.
Do you have any idea?
Thank you
Google is updating some sites on the fly. Now throw in 5-6 data centers around the planet. Not all those centers are going to have the same copy of the database at the same time. Sometimes when you refresh, you get connected to another center with one copy of the db and another refresh another center with a different copy of the db. So it appears that the results are changing.
Why and how Google is working the magic to redirect you to different data centers is unknown. The most common way is via simple dns changes or simple loading sharing arrangements where you may be connecting to different boxes at the exact same data center while the mini update (copying of the new db) to the boxes is being done.
I'd almost bet that when your above scenario took place, that it cleared itself in a couple of hours or less and results appeared stable after that.
Still my SERPs changing, but now not on every refresh, they are chaging once a day or twice a day.
I will send you a sticky, maybe you want to see.
thanks.
any ideas what happened or what i need to do?
thanks.
It doesn't matter what the IP address was. That just tells you what box they used, not whether it was operating as a regular update bot or a fresh bot. I have seen both sets of IP addresses used for both purposes.
They do *tend* towards using one set of machines for freshbot duty, but I have seen both doing it.
Since this is a case of classic freshbot behavior, there really isn't much point in asking which machine did the crawl.
Don't worry. Google knows you are there, but you will not make it in solid till you are hit with an update crawl and then google updates their main index.
The next update crawl will probably be in early November and the Update from that crawl will be in late November. That is why most sites tell you it will take 6 to 8 weeks to get into the Google index.
I suggest that you spend the next couple of weeks before the big crawl trying to get some incoming links from good sites, and make sure that your content is in order. Then be patient, there is no way to speed it up and get google to work on your time table.
<edit> and spend some time reading some of the threads here, you will quickly learn a lot about how google works </edit>
thanks,ive got alot of incoming links,but i will work on getting more.thanks again!
It was the same on www, www2 and www3 all month so far.
Tonight, on www it is at #5 and on www2 it is at #3.
They are all the same again.
Don't worry, when the update is on, you will know.
Onya
Woz
I sent you link to google dance machine to check it.
Jon
Dan
What are we supposed to see from the google dance machine?
