Waiting for the September Update

Looking forward and preparing for the update

[apays14]

I know that it's early but one of my sites just had about 40 pages indexed. Has this happened to anyone else?

[Beachboy]

Not an update. I have some 9/20 fresh pages too, and pages from sites added since last update have just returned to the www3 index after missing for a week, but this is not yet the monthly big update.

[mundonet]

Well a search with Costa Rica returns 3,660,000 pages in www3 & www2 but 3,760,000 on Google and position for the top 3 are different.

[chadandrew]

Looks like it has started. I started getting hit by googlebot around 11:30PM EST on Saturday night. Good thing I did updates all day long.

[brotherhood of LAN]

mundonet,

The SERP results in www and www2 etc are not a good indicator of anything really.

If you are referring to a Google update (sacred and dangerous word here) the the link pop of some large site should be different in www and www2....like Yahoo

link:whatever.com

If its wildly diff between 1 and 2, chances are it's an update ;)

[Powdork]

I have a site where I changed the title and the change was reflected in the sept. 18 fresh results but now its gone back to the old title. i'm guessing that when the new title shows back up (with its new and improved results of course :) ) that will mean we're dancing. Unless, of course, it gets 'minted' again.

Does the first to post win anything?
Perhaps 1,000,000 free commercial queries with the API. Hell, bring Publishers Clearing House and deliver ten million queries to my door.

[brotherhood of LAN]

Does the first to post win anything?

They should, because usually there's 99 people in every 100 who are false alarms ;)

/added
Everyone who makes a false alarm should give a PR9 link to the "updatee"

[bcc1234]

Everyone who makes a false alarm should give a PR9 link to the "updatee"

Which implies they have a PR9 page in the first place and that means they know what they are doing :)

[creep]

Shiney full moon here and no update
So no relevancy there...maybe this wednesday or so? Thats hat I'm thinking

[chadandrew]

So if the dance has not started then what is the purpose of googlebot hitting all of my sites this evening? Is that part of the updating process?

[Powdork]

I've had fresh listings for the 18th, 20th, and 21st. Maybe there won't be any more monthlies. What would we live for :)?

[steveb]

chadandrew, googlebot perpetually crawls the web. It hits my site most every day and crawls most of it three or so times a week. Some people don't get crawled nearly so often but a visit from googlebot doesn't mean an update. I wish there was an update every day!

[sahara]

I used to really enjoy the excitement of the dance on WebmasterWorld, but what's going to happen now when it starts? Are the trials and tribulations just going to be tagged on the end of this long build up thread? I hope Webmaster world gives it a fresh thread - just like the good old days.

p.s. (more unfounded postulation..) I do wonder if the dance is going to be a thing of the past. There certainly appears to be more update activity throughout the month.

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p.p.s. Now look what I've done - started a new thread - apologies WebmasterWorld, please stick it on the end of the last one

[brotherhood of LAN]

sahara

p.p.s. Now look what I've done - started a new thread - apologies WebmasterWorld, please stick it on the end of the last one

There is a good reason for this. Not everyone is so keen about G updates...some are even banned and want to read other things about Google aside from the update.

This is why they are all in the one thread. The idea is to cut down on "Noise" so that people can find what they are looking for and not sift through dozens of "is it updated yet" or "my pr isnt showing" or "i have a fresh tag yippee"

I support it :) btw im looking forward to the update too ;)

[rfgdxm1]

>>Does the first to post win anything?

>They should, because usually there's 99 people in every 100 who are false alarms

OK, then where is MY prize? ;) Last month I made the first correct update post. I just happened to check with one of those Google dance machine sites right after it happened. A quick check shows that it hasn't happened yet, so hang in there.

[sahara]

"rfgdxm1" isn't exactly a catchy name, but maybe the WebmasterWorld community should give rfgdxm1 the sole right, and onerous responsibility, of declaring the dance to have started.

With a new thread ;-)

After all, He's got a 100% perfect track record (O.K. 1 out of 1)

We trust you rfgdxm1 - declarer of the dance - the future of the dance is in your hands.

(pity about the unheroic name..)

[rfgdxm1]

Nope. I'm 1 for 2. Early on, I confused everflux for an update. However, hopefully I redeemed myself for finally getting it right. ;) I'm getting the hang of updates now. Definitely things can change from the beginning to an update to the end. I was #1 for a key search term early last month, but in the end fell back again to #3. It looks to me like the in the early part of the update things like PR aren't fully factored in yet.

[rfgdxm1]

>(pity about the unheroic name..)

Some time months ago I briefly registered to post as "rfgdxm", which is very familiar in the Usenet NGs I post in. A check on "rfgdxm" as author in Google groups pulls up all my posts, without false hits. I lost the password, and thus registered as "rfgdxm1". A little less familiar, but adequate. ;)

[hmpphf]

Awesome: I published a new website for some friends on 17th Sept, and added links to the new site from 3 of my other websites. Googlebot came on the 19th Sept and we started getting hits from Google searchers the same day. On the 20th we started getting hits from Yahoo/Google and AOL, with all the pages on the sites generating quality traffic, coming first place for a whole bunch of relevant search phrases. Do I care about the monthly update? Nope! Do I love Google? Yep.

[yankee]

Everflux will add new pages, but the monthly update adds new links and new pages.

[mack]

Full moon tonight (uk)
:)

[Chef_Brian]

Please lord .... update ..... I need to see "some" of the results of six weeks of focused hard work. Please Mr. Google .... through this dog a bone.

Chef Brian

[bobmark]

I hate to be the one to tell you this mack, but while the sun may never set on the British Empire, the full moon is not for the UK alone. God may be an Englishman, but he does let the rest of us share the moon :)

[rfgdxm1]

Perhaps England has a different moon than we Yankees do? ;)

[mack]

Oops! looks like I have just won the idiot award. I always though that the moon phases where different, depending on what area of the world you whre in. I though our full moon was a few days before or after say for exapmle the full moon in australia?

[GetVisible]

I can't cope with this anymore! My girlfriend is stressing because I keep logging on! Let it be before she moves out!

[Axacta]

GetVisible - take a few deep breaths... in... out... in... out... Now get your priorties straight man! If she wants to leave let her go - no woman is worth the added stress of the monthly update!

[mack]

I have always wondered this......

We all get stressed about the update..ever wondered what it would be like at the Googleplex?

Will it work, will we break it, will the results be good... And we thing we have it tough. :)

[Helpmebe1]

We do Mack! Google can surive, they have money.. if we dont place well we are homeless!

[rfgdxm1]

My guess is that the reason why there is a Google dance is to avoid problems just in case the guys and gals at the Googleplex break it. The new index doesn't go live to the world until after it is sorted out on www1 and www2. If some software bug made the new index go horribly awry, Google could just stick with the last index until they felt they got it right.

[Axacta]

>My guess is that the reason why there is a Google dance is to avoid problems just in case the guys and gals at the Googleplex break it.<

rfgdxm1, you obviously do not have nearly as conspira... conspira... aaa... conspiratorial enough mind to understand Google. It is not a case of breaking Google - it's that they are trying...ing...ing to break webmasters and SEO's. But I think we are all standing up to them rather well, don't you...ou...ou? splutter...crashsh...

[edited by: Axacta at 6:54 pm (utc) on Sep. 22, 2002]