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steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)
Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.
We are getting close to full propagation. I am seeing fresh tags for the 12th and 13th.
Sorry to be a pedant but where are you seeing these?
I'm seeing them on the 64 range and on 216.* but not on www www2 www3 or any of the European .de .fr .ie .es etc DCs.
Best wishes
Sid
All my pages are still in Google with no titles or cache and Googlebot has stopped visiting. Will I be back when Brandy is complete? If not is there anything I can do to get back, given that I have scanned my site and can find no reason for any penalty.
There was a long thread on this last month. I seem to remember it had something to do with a domain resolving for two URLs. Like www.domain.com and domain.com. This looks like you have two duplicate sites to Google because one redirects to the other. I've seen lots of these redirecting URLs in the index lately with no cache or description. Perhaps your DNS administrator has changed how the two forms resolve and this has caused the problem.
Can't see why the problem you describe would have anything to do with this update "Brandy". I'd go and read back and do some investigating.
Best wishes
Sid
I feel like its a whole new day again!
I think directories are anoying and useless - they make a user search Google, then have to plow through a directory to find what they are looking for!
Google - why give directories the top rankings for Real Estate searches as well as many other industries?
Am starting to see movement on www inc freshies for 12th and 13th, but nothing like the promised 64. so I certainly hope there are more changes to come. If things settle now I've had it.
All my pages are still in Google with no titles or cache and Googlebot has stopped visiting. Will I be back when Brandy is complete? If not is there anything I can do to get back, given that I have scanned my site and can find no reason for any penalty.
I have exactly the same problem in 64.233.161.99 with 75% of my pages
showing a url only - no title or cache. These are Lycos (Tripod) web pages.
Google.co.uk seems to still be showing the old results, but on 64.233.161.99 we're where we were in November (or better!) position wise.
Be nice to be back as I couldn't work out why we'd suddenly been shunted way down the list (from being between #1 and #5 to being #900+) - it didn't seem fair to say the least!
Anyway, if the end result looks like what's showing on 64.233.161.99 I'll be opening something good from the warehouse tonight to celebrate.
Would anyone mind taking a look at a page I've just been playing with and give me their opinion if I've over egged the omelette KW wise? I'm a bit of a novice at this :)
Oh yeah and leave Vanillia coke alone I love it.
I wonder how long this is going to take?
That is very nice as it did not bring anything good to the results most of the time. Good job Google!
Can't wait to see the full impact on our sites with these new results.
In the Brandy algo change I see very good serps with high keyword relevant sites going back to the top (and a few Amazon clones as well in there in some cases), but much better results.
Any ideas on what part of the algorithm was boosted/lowered to reflect changes in Brandy?
Thanks for all the insight and vision GG and WebmasterWorld members!
Steve, what do you mean by this? Google bombing or just the importance of anchor text.
It looks to me like anchor text is key. While I see relevant results in my industry as a whole, they rank based on anchor text.
[edited by: Kirby at 6:02 pm (utc) on Feb. 14, 2004]
My more weaker sites have not and I think although I miss the money they use to make they probably don't deserve to be at the top anymore anyway.
So well done Google for a good job on Brandy and for keeping me on my toes.
Maybe anyone know how to fight with the slow death? How to force google to crawl site properly? How to bring it back to Serps?
A little stupid question but what can I do!?......
P.S. The most interesting that all the other search engines (msn, altavista, alltheweb etc) rank my site as #1 for my main KW1KW2 and I'm in top 5 for the other additional KW. It's a pity that this is only 5% of google traffic for the same KWs
[edited by: alexdo at 6:25 pm (utc) on Feb. 14, 2004]
[edited by: Marcia at 10:18 pm (utc) on Feb. 14, 2004]
[edit reason] No specifics, please. [/edit]
Well done G.
GranPops
SERPS look good at least one of the spam sites from the top has been knocked off.
Any ideas as what to do next?
I agree with an earlier post that "this mechanism is cutting out some of the lovely/cool/unique/informative hobby and mom & pop sites"
My 3 word keyphrase is in a very small niche and I have enjoyed position 6 and 7 for months. With 64 I'm on page 3! Now, you'll see classified ads, small searchengine directories, and a variety of other sites that aren't relevant.
216 is SO much better...much more relevant, although there is one of those directory results on page one, 216 does a much better job of putting the few relevant sites right at the top.
I sure hope 64 doesn't stick, or at least that it's not finished being tweaked. It will ruin me.
Since yesterday, I've seen more of those small site relevant pages knocked out.
Also, G, please...get rid of those booksite pages. In one search I did, pages from bookseller sites occupied no less than 8 of the top 30 slots.
On the assumption that even Joe Sixpack doesn't need G to find book sites on the Web, that's eight potentially useful pages out of 30, that are never seen by the searcher. Or, looking at it another way, eight free ad listings to bookseller megasites. ;-)
