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steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)
Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.
What is the full IP that you guys are checking?
[64.233.161.99...] still looks awesome to me, but things have definately been jumping around in my catagories.
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Are people still seeing 64.233.161.99 in www?
Dooomed...
[edited by: flobaby at 4:19 am (utc) on Feb. 15, 2004]
Or maybe this myth and the other voodoo filter myths never actually existed?
Don't know if it was voodoo jive or not steveb, but I detrashed one of mine and it came back. Other sites in the cat came back long before but they weren't at the same point percentage wise.
No begging -- especially when the results are not that different between 64 and 216!...
For my major keywords, keyphrases, and page rankings, the differences between 64, 216, Florida, and Austin appear to be insignicant--and I'm in a competitive and heavily commercialized category. I realize that other site owners are seeing much greater fluctuations, and I can't wondering how much of that is due to optimizing for the fad du jour (which may result in a site's being vulnerable to Google's tweaking of this or that part of the algorithm).
No begging -- especially when the results are not that different between 64 and 216!
Ah but there is a world of difference for product related keyword phrases when on one you are #2 & #5 as compared to #10 & #14
I'll just sit tight and wait 'till everything settles :)
Also seeing 216 consistantly on www since early afternoon here. Going to pray that when I wake up tomorrow that 64 will have taken over but not giving it much hope. If 216 is the final SERPs not much of an improvement for us.
Not seeing 64 on www. Only 216.
64 looks too good to be true?
Have some faith here. Speculation will lead to a mob forming. :)
so lets summarize
1. they have been seen on the www today--first time to my knowledge
2. 216 is still more frequent
3. it is only sat. night--
4. the 216 results still differ greatly
Our hits are up from as far back as September, yet our ranking in Google has continued to diminish since Florida. How can this be you ask? Obviously the end users are seeking the info elswhere.
I just checked our refering URL's for the last 30 day: MSN is our #1 referrer, where Google use to be.
Now, if our total hit counts had continued to diminish since Florida (like our ranking has), I'd think, so what? But that has not been the case. And if Google is "filtering" things in such a way that don't make "adsense" to the end user, they will no doubt go elsewhere, like I did three years ago when Yahoo started telling me what THEY thought I should be looking at...
Gonna be hard to sell Adsense when nobody is there to click 'em...
the 216 results have revealed something interesting to me--and in my opinion a flaw.
i am on top of the third page for "wiget rentals".
however, my site does not even show in the index..i stopped looking after page 25 for "widget rental"
plural/singular searches should reveal somewhat similar search results..not identical, but at lease somewhat similar?
No?
(I am on the east coast in the U.S.)
Good night!
I like staying these variations. I figured out how to get past the google filter in the past and these variations give valuable imfo on what makes Google tick. As I said before each look like different levels of the same filter being applied to the index. This leads to the following possibilities:
1) Google will use both 64 and 216 and watch to which surfers prefer and benefits to adwords. In this case 64 represents almost pre-florida and 216 represents Austin.
2) Alternatively, they will launch 64 and things will go back to normal. Eventually, the filter will be weakened across the board for major and minor terms. Possibly with a major update in a month's time. Google users will try to forget the last 3 months of chaos.
3) They will launch 216 and the path of filtering out commercial sites will intensify. google will began a new era of searching where directories rule and real content will fade. Sites will have to either pay for adwords or adapt. In this case it could mean the eventual demise of Google.
One thing for sure, no matter what happens we should be very careful about placing our faith in one search engine. The best system is one where no one search engine dominates. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
