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Backlinks updated on -VA?

Seeing changes in my backlinks there.

         

crobb305

8:39 am on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Anyone else?

div01

4:47 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing a PR 'update' aswell.

greenfrog

5:08 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If that's it .... i just lost half of my incoming links.

And it didn't reflect any of the new additions.

:(

Marcia

5:11 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A lot of people have lost backlinks. greenfrog, how long ago were the new links added? I've also had some new ones this past month that aren't showing yet, I expect they will next time.

birdstuff

5:20 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Backlinks increased by 38, PR on most internal pages increased by 1, PR on home page remained the same.

AthlonInside

6:31 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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greenfrog,

Links from a same domain is now reduced.

plasma

7:43 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Links from a same domain is now reduced.

Would you please explain this a bit more?

AthlonInside

8:18 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If you buy links from a site xyz.com and they setup 1568 links in their site.

Old times, you might get something like 1231 links calculated in back links count.

Now it might be 563 only.

** figure are demostation only, I don't know exactly how much it is reduced **

dimitri42

9:26 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have links on a PR9 a PR8 an two PR7 sites that no longer show in backlinks.

The page rank still seems to be passed to sites with link over 1 month old but nothing to new sites. This is the PR seems to be passing even though the back links are gone.

I have checked all the sites the they show in the back links for their own domain but not for any external links.

I though the old "no passing pr" penality still showed the links in back links.

Anybody got any ideas?

airpal

10:07 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Dimitri, I hope the best for your site and that you reach a PR8. Personally, I just checked one of my sites earlier today, PR0 (white bar), few hours later PR3, right now PR0! Go figure... I've given up on trying to figure out what's up with the Pagerank/backlink calculation and have focused instead, on working on a wide array of content pages for many keywords instead. Btw, I have a feeling pagerank is only being calculated on links that were pointing to the site from at least a few weeks ago, which would be absolutely awful considering my big-time backlink would probably not be counted. Uggh! This "rolling update" only seems to serve pages that have been in google for a long time, and helps webmasters tweak their code, leaving new sites in the dust for a while. I'm a saaad panda :(

dirkz

10:21 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Backlinks for most of my sites have been updated now. Only PR > 4 seems still to be the rule of thumb.

netnerd

10:23 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One of my sites now shows no backlinks even though in the 'contains the term bit' i have 800 , many of which are over parge rank 4.

Ideas?

greenfrog

11:16 pm on Oct 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Most of my newer backlinks were added about 25 days ago. So they are not that old, just wishful hoping that they'd be included.

Google did drop out some of existing backlinks, I'll have to spend some more time researching to find out how many. Overall if this was it, I was hoping for more. More than 100 quality links missing.

I haven't seen any PR changes at all.

....ah the frustration. Nothing like a sharp stick in the eye to start off my Monday. :)

inventio

10:23 am on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>Only PR > 4 seems still to be the rule of thumb.

I have PR3 and PR2s now

killroy

10:55 am on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Is there an easy way of finding all the links to any of the pages on your domain?

Increased to PR6 :) But as I understand it, these have been in use for SERPS for a while, so I can't really expect an increase in traffic and income... only in linking requests.

SN

tantalus

11:00 am on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"..these have been in use for SERPS for a while, so I can't really expect an increase in traffic.."

Hi killroy can you elaborate. When did they come into play and/or what has given you this impression?

I'd be very interested.

WebmasterFisherman

12:08 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)



Not happy with the changes...
My PR increased but positions dropped...
It's a very competitive keyword that I'm targeting...
Or maybe there's still a chance - who supports the idea that it will take google a bit of time to settle down with "proper" serps - in other words Google's still dancing?
Normally we saw changes in serps before PR and backlinks update - it looks to be different this time. How much time will it take Google to "properly" update SERPs?

Just craving for a bit of hope :)

kapow

1:05 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My PR increased but positions dropped...
It's a very competitive keyword

Me too.

dirkz

1:34 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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How much time will it take Google to "properly" update SERPs?

Google is constantly updating SERPs. One page of mine is dancing from #5-#10 for a phrase continuously.

Macro

2:48 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google is showing weird results. For example on a "digital camera" search almost all the SERPS are pages that have grey bars and no PR.

wanna_learn

2:56 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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one of my sites show NO backlinks now and still PR 5, but burried down under SERP. :-(

NO Trick played! still!

billygg

3:05 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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definitely dropping backlinks, one of my PR 6 sites dropped to a 5 and lost al but 6 backlinks, but the position moved up one lol, now that is crazy. but i think PR 4 backlinks is definitely the rule of thumb, seeing my 6 links are all PR 4 or higher.

mrguy

3:10 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My backlinks dropped, PR stable, positions remain stable or better on some terms.

Perhaps what we see on the Toolbar and what is actually being factored in are two different things?!?!?!

Also, I'm seeing PRO sites as well as PR 2 and 3 showing up for backlinks. So, I think what is being displayed is not limited to PR 4 or higher and probably just a random sample of what you really have.

jsnow

3:16 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had a 20% drop in backlinks, no change in PR but an increase in SERP's so not too worried just confused %-)

claus

3:58 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Can't leave the threads for a few days without missing something these days ...

query format: "link:example.com"

ex: 90
sj: n/a
va: 90
dc: 90
ab: 38
in: 38
zu: 38
cw: 90
fi: 90
gv: 90
alltheweb.com: 311

What was the name of the new (11th) datacenter again?

It seems that each time Google does this a lot of backlinks dissappear. Alltheweb also seem to be decaying.

That site showed 400 backlinks in Google a few months ago, while ATW showed 800 (rounded numbers). I believe the real number was around 1.000 back then, but of course a lot of my known backlinks are intranets and these don't get spidered.

Well, frankly my dear, i don't give a .... Traffic is all time high.

/claus

abuzer1

5:20 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What was the name of the new (11th) datacenter again

-kr

mcavill

5:21 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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and -mc

dirkz

5:27 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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and probably just a random sample of what you really have

Several in this forum have already pointed out that maybe Google is just gaming us with their backlinks "facility" :)

Perhaps what we see on the Toolbar and what is actually being factored in are two different things?!?!?!

Of course, SERPs are updated quite continuously whereas PR and Backlinks are definitely not.

jpavery

6:49 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A site I watched went from a PR 5 to a PR 6... at the same going from 370 back links to just 36.. and about 80% of those were from the site itself....

Bizzare...

WebmasterFisherman

7:04 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)



My 3 sites came back to the PR they had before the update...
But if I use -va host for toolbarqueries it's the same though..
How long do you think it will be jiggling?

rfgdxm1

7:06 pm on Oct 28, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>A site I watched went from a PR 5 to a PR 6... at the same going from 370 back links to just 36.. and about 80% of those were from the site itself....

My best guess is Google is displaying a smaller subset of total links now. This really isn't a critical feature. And worse yet, it can be used to reverse engineer PR.

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