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i can't imagine any legit reason to try and get a site bumped just from the top 10, and not take the site out of the index alltogether, and permanently.
i do think that as the market gets saturated (everyone's a seo pro), you will see some devious methods of manipulating rankings.
just my $.02
Allrighty.. I see we have a few crooks around this place..
Perhaps some people that need to learn how to support their generic statements, but I think I know where you're going:
I make my clients register their own domain(s). They can point the DNS anywhere they want and I happily provide the code & DB that they've paid for. If they can't pay the rent, point it somwhere else, the K is dissolved, no big deal.
If one doesn't pay their webhosting fee's than any webhost would terminate the clients site.
That's a different issue.
We're referring to an SEO who has access to a clients account/password, etc.. and goes into his pages and screws things up so that he loses ranking in the SERPS.
Usually this is done because the SEO is unethical and a crook. He was PAID in FULL by the client. Once the client got good rankings he smartly decided that he didn't need or want an SEO to work on his site anymore. So this SEO decides to screw up his ranking in-order to lie and pretend that he's still needed.
That's far different than a hosting provider terminating a clients service for non-pay and telling him to point his domain elsewhere.
You guys not in it for the cash are you?
You're in it to be best friends with Googleguy and share your happy experience with everyone else right?
Sometimes I feel I'm not in a SEO forum but in Google-supporter-and-spam-watcher forum.
He didn't get paid *enough* to buy his covetted new Sony VAIO notebook and needs to chop a finger or two.
Business as usual.
Next.
Why does everyone here sound like moral police?You guys not in it for the cash are you?
You're in it to be best friends with Googleguy and share your happy experience with everyone else right?Sometimes I feel I'm not in a SEO forum but in Google-supporter-and-spam-watcher forum.
NORMALLY I would agree with you.
The problem is this SEO is directly ripping off an innocent webmaster. This webmaster could be any newbie in this forum.
It's not wise for a SEO to come to a webmaster forum and ask how to rip off another webmaster.
Ripping off a webmaster directly is a lot different than someone "cheating" Google.
And thats it! your competition will all crying -- its a bug in Google's software use it for your benefit!
Why leave all other pages to your competitors? To be prominent on all pages with a recognizable title will be a click-through.
I have two listings on page 1 but none on the higher pages. If your sites size is below 20/30 pages, chances of having many listings on the pages 2+ arent high.
So it is a good question on how to deliberately place pages on specific SERP.
So it is a good question on how to deliberately place pages on specific SERP.
to select the bottom place, use:
<font color="white">Search Engine Optimisation Link Farm Site Map</font>
on a white page.
for the other places, you just need to write:
<META NAME="googleserps" CONTENT="2">
where 2 is the number SERP you want to be indexed as. You need to put this on every page.
I just get this sense that the question could easily be rephrased "how can I ruin her prom dress without her knowing I was the one with the painball gun cause after all, I still want to be able to date her once she comes to her senses again."
Sheeesh, if you got stiffed on a bill, this plan of yours is not your remedy for collection. Further, you might well get caught, and what will that reputation blow cost you down the line?
After all, disfavored client might well turn to someone else instead of you after your little wake up call, and where do you think Mr. Fix-it is going to point the finger first, at your former client, or your way?
I couldn't disagree more. Astoller provided a valuable service to a person/company in good faith and presumably failed to receive whatever remuneration was negotiated as part of the deal.
Likening the pursuit of payment (or in this case, the very difficult withdrawal of services already provided - much as a furniture store would repossess a dining set not paid for by a consumer)to a muttled-prom-date-procurement-attempt is insulting and juvenile. This isn't to suggest that astoller hasn't in fact had his own nerdy prom date problems, but let's not confuse his business pursuits with his fledgling pick up attempts (I'm sorry, I couldn't refuse - I don't know Astoller and this was merely added for comic relief).
Anyway, business is business and to pontificate about the ethical or social implications of Astoller's attempt to "git him his peice o' da pie dat he done baked" is silly. No question, he'd have been better off structuring a smarter, longer-term, performance-based, easily-collectable payment structure with his client, but therein lies the rub for SEO providers (I'm sure discussion of this difficult task alone could feed a very long thread on WebmasterWorld).
In closing, I would like to summarize by conceding that, had I not executed so poorly last night at the bar with the girl of my dreams who I'd have paid large sums of money to be my prom date, I would not be awake here, alone, this morning responding to WebmasterWorld threads on a Saturday. Does anyone have a paintball gun? I'm sure I can track her down...
a lot of people mentioned this problem. See this thread [webmasterworld.com] for some some related links.
(In general: much speculation, few facts - but some good hints)
There are few things in life I take with absolute certainty, but finding no surprise that I'm disagreed with now and again is one of them 8^).
To me the original poster's plea boils down to "i wanna teach x a lesson so x will come groveling back to me and realize how important i am (after i fix what I deliberately trash, and gee i hope i don't get caught doing the trashing part, anyone got any fail safe plans I can use.) Then x will do things my way in the future."
I simply don't see the situation being one where client X is the party most in need of a reality check or is most in need of a check mark in the lessons learned column.