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I don't want to appear in the top 10

         

astoller

10:30 am on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have a site that I no longer want to rank highly on the engines.

How can I make it not appear in the top 10?
It has several links coming in but I don’t want it to appear in top 10
How can I do this?

planbeta

1:41 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some hidden text should do the trick! ;)

Nick_W

1:45 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Robots.txt in your http root directory

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

Nick

[edited by: Nick_W at 1:46 pm (utc) on June 15, 2003]

caine

1:45 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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link out to every linkfarm that you can find, that will bury it. Though this a permenent solution.

Alternately strip the content right back, including strong kw density.

may i ask why?

jady

1:45 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some reverse SEO? Thats a new one.. :)

Hmmmm... Remove some of the keywords on that pages that are pulling high.

AthlonInside

1:46 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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That's just too easy.

Put a robots.txt and disallow your site.

Go to google manual removal system and enter your site. Your site will be gone in 1 day.

JonB

1:47 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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oh my oh my ...i would never think to see question like this..if you dont care about the site - try using EVERY Spam tehnique there is and then report here so we will know how google reacts.if you dont like the site,i'll take it :)

makemetop

2:00 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)



Is this a first?

Anyway, robots.txt will work pretty fast!

borisbaloney

2:00 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Considering his high-ranking site most likely has a fair few backlinks then adjusting the contant may not work.

Of course robots.txt and manual removal are the way to go, but I find it interesting how hard this process might be if these methods were not available.

mosley700

2:01 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I know several SEO's that could get you dropped from the SE's in a hurry. ....

caine

2:06 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> fair few backlinks then adjusting the contant may not work.

Why does PR without content give you high serps?

The robots, and manual exclusion via G, are certainly the quickest, but still the question is:

What are the motivations for doing this, and are you thinking permenently, or on a temporary basis?

Until that is answered, then i'm afraid the advice could be contrary to what you wish to achieve!

borisbaloney

2:08 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> Why does PR without content give you high serps?

It doesn't. It helps, but anchor text in backlinks does much more.

skipfactor

2:21 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some hidden text should do the trick! ;)

No, he said he didn't want to appear in the top 10. :)

Petrocelli

2:33 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just wait for G's next update (Elvis?) - since all recently dropped sites are supposed to re-appear, chances are good that your's will be dropped in return ... :)

DaveAtIFG

2:40 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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My guess as to astoller's motivation is the owner of the site hasn't paid the promoter. If so, is this a temporary "wake up call" or a permanent "I'll show you" situation? :)

mfishy

3:01 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't just send the traffic to another site and make some money.

seofreak

3:11 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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perhaps some disagreements between the SEO and the site owner leading to this?

Alternately strip the content right back, including strong kw density.

yep, i'd say that too

EquityMind

3:59 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)



Easy...Change out your title tag to say "Home page".

vincevincevince

5:31 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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SEO 1 : I bet you couldn't get normally level headed cool minded WW members to advocate hidden text, link farms, and dirty dirty spam techniques.

SEO 2 : Deal... watch this [posts "I don't want to appear in the top 10" thread...]

HitProf

7:34 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>Some reverse SEO? Thats a new one..

No, actually one of my clients asked that too :)

Dutch site but most important keywords are the same in Dutch as in English... attractd too many foreign visitors. Haven't completely figured it out yet, still working on it.

Suggestions (if you don't want to ban the site completely): use robots exclusions, tweek titles for top ranking pages, change url's (file names), ask site owners with inbound links to change the anchor text or drop the link completely, remove/change internal links/anchor text and link titles...

Jakpot

7:43 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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This is Fathers Day not April 1

astoller

9:14 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, its a wake up call to the site owner.
So I want to get back to good ranking later.
However ,what is a robots text file?

is this the robots.txt file?

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

2 lines of code?
that's it?

bird

9:42 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yup, that's the simplest way to drop out of Google for a month or two (or any other engine with such a short update cycle).

[edited by: bird at 9:42 pm (utc) on June 15, 2003]

astoller

9:42 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Adding in a robots text file might make things a little obvious.
Would the log files be able to trace it back to me?
I do want to reinstate the site after this wake up.

cornwall

10:27 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>I do want to reinstate the site after this wake up.<<

Its not really that quick to remove a site in the way you want, nor can you (as far as I am aware) just switch it back onto its original positioning.

If you do one of the simpler options, like ban robots or change the title tag to something bland, it will take some months to drop out of high Google serps, particularly if you have been there some time.

A couple of months ago I was giving a site a makeover and switching between index pages for the client to see. Clean forgot to put a new title tag in and next Google up date, no title, but same excellent serps.

Even when legitimtely closing down a site (hotel owner closing the hotel, but wanting re-directs to his new hotel)still took months to disappear from Google.

As far as I can see, the only way to get sudden drop in Google serps is to use spam techniques that will get the site banned (yep, that works)...but it will proably take you a year, if ever, to get it back again :(

John_Creed

10:31 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You have access to someone's site so you are going to destroy their rankings in-order to intimidate them for money?

A "wakeup call" would be to discontinue aiding them in whatever it is you do. Once they fall in the rankings they will appreciate what you did and come back begging.

But sneaking a robots.txt file into their site to get them deleted from all the search engines is unethical.

But than again, who am I to preach ethics....

I don't even know the entire stituation.

skipfactor

10:32 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Adding in a robots text file might make things a little obvious.
Would the log files be able to trace it back to me?
I do want to reinstate the site after this wake up.

Why not "NOINDEX" crucial pages? The bots will be in the logs & it's easy enough to get the pages back in the index.

<META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex">

You have access to someone's site so you are going to destroy their rankings in-order to intimidate them for money?

I yank the whole site for refuse-to-pay-ups, and I hate doing it. Sounds like a nicer way to get a check in the mail--webmaster contrived Google penalty. ;)

John_Creed

2:17 am on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I yank the whole site for refuse-to-pay-ups, and I hate doing it. Sounds like a nicer way to get a check in the mail--webmaster contrived Google penalty. ;)

A client refuses to pay yet still allows a SEO access to his site?

"Adding in a robots text file might make things a little obvious.
Would the log files be able to trace it back to me? I do want to reinstate the site after this wake up."

This implies that the client is still a client and is paying. But maybe this SEO thinks he deserves even more money for the great ranking.

Regardless, it's an unethical thing to do and helps give SEO's a bad name.

The SEO's who do this are probably the same one's who use hidden text on their clients sites to link back to themselves.

skipfactor

2:59 am on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think we're talking Webmaster/Host/SEO here. I'm a Webmaster by trade. I can offer a client the best results by doing all three; I refuse clients who don't give me 100% control over all three.

If they violate our written contract with reagrds to paying for their hosting, I warn, warn, warn, then yank.

If you find this unethical, I'd be willing to refer these deadbeats to your host-of-choice. :)

marcs

4:34 am on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Yes, its a wake up call to the site owner.

If you are hosting their account (and have sufficient access to the server), simply rename their web directory.

Say it is currently '/www/sitename', rename it to '/www/sitename.off'. That will kill their site until they see things your way.

Once you reach an agreement, rename it back to the old name and they'll see traffic again. Note that this would not only kill search engine traffic, their site would be dead to the world.

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