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11:49 pm on Feb 14, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Just got e-mail back from Teoma -- they're going to start accepting URLs for site crawls starting tomorrow, February 15th, via AskJeeves -- apparently this will feed Ask Jeeves and Teoma. Happy submitting, guys!
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Hello everyone,

It is my first posting here. I think it is a rich forum, thank you all and special thanks to Brett. I am just a part time webmaster, let's say for fun.
I tryed a lot of things listed in this forum and I could say that it is still not working on google but on French SE I got very very good results.
Now back to T. I have some pages listed on the first page for my own KW. A'm happy about that but I think that's because T in not known in French speaking countries. "or perhaps the SEO for G is applicable to T".

But I think there was no updates since a long time.
If T will drive traffic to your site I think that $18 is worth it and will be ready to pay if it the cost remains under $0.01 per click. for the moment no visitors from T.

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A cursory glance at client logs (clients for whom we haven't done any formal SE marketing) for January indicates that Teoma/Ask/Ask Jeeves accounted for a very small percentage of traffic and revenue. I can't recommend spending the $30 to clients, even if it is only $30.
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Welcome to WMW French_cnx :)

I think the $30 plus $18 per URL is competitive... and their database will undoubtedly get larger from the offering. I'll be submitting.

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At $30 + $18 per url, that would cost me $234,000 for one site alone. I already have over 5,000 pages in Teoma now and see no traffic (almost none from Ask Jeeves as well) so I wouldn't pay until someone outside of this group has heard of them. I find it kind of amazing a new unknown engine would do this without becoming more established first. They may be "competitively" price but they are not competitive in traffic. Maybe $1 a url or $0.50 but that's even high for them now. I'd rather pay a couple hundred, have a whole site indexed and be done with it.
A new company could do this and be gone or taken over in no time. Taking cash this early.... I don't care for it.
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Perhaps AJ is going to do some more branding/advertising in the near future to bring in more traffic?

Unless anyone has heard rumors, rumblings to that effect, I wouldn't pay to be included in AJ. We get zero traffic from them even with a #1 KW ranking.

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I think that Adamxcl has made a very good point:

They are coming right out of the gates asking for money? I also think that this is a bit soon to be wanting money for submission.

9:03 pm on Feb 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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ok jeeves, you:

- Don't have mucho traffic.
- have a heavily PPC-laden SERP, real listings are below the fold
- frame my visitors and run your on-topic banners in the top frame

And you want me to pay *you* to spider?!

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I am already getting some solid traffic on AJ for some search terms. I am therefore seriously considering what will happen with Teoma.

P.S. My main market is not that competitive yet so am in watching brief mode on this issue.

10:04 pm on Feb 15, 2002 (gmt 0)

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One of my sites is in already and ranks fairly well, but I am not seeing any big traffic from either Teoma or AskJ.

There is also a lot of dead wood in the database. Might be worth it if they would spider down 100 pages or so from the top for that price.

I am going to have to think about this.

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Charging for submissions to an engine that has a fairly small database, and very little traffic certainly doesn't seem to make any sense.

Unless of course there are some yet-to-be-announced partnership deals that might all of a sudden change everyone's opinion of Teoma's value...:)

6:56 am on Feb 16, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>- Don't have mucho traffic.

I think that is the general conception. Based on what I've seen the last year from DirectHit/AJ, its a misconception. I think the tandom of AJ/DH is the best kept secret in all of seo.

AJ/DH out produces (10 fold) 22 yahoo listings for us.

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>I think the tandom of AJ/DH is the best kept secret in all of seo.<

What type of sites Brett? I've heard others say the same thing, but I haven't had the same experience. Nothing from Direct Hit and very, very little from ask Jeeves for my stuff.

Re: Teoma - I don't mind paying for inclusion at all, but I flatly refuse to pay when Overture or any other PPC results will be placed ahead of mine. I'm not going to pay to list my site just to make the PPC sites "appear" legitimate!

I'll stick with Google, Fast and hopefully "someday" Wisenut if they ever update their index.

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The "type" of site I have, has received a fair amount of traffic from DH/AJ, most of which I believe to be research on "what is..." for the artistic genre which is my content.

Also, in combination, they have a pretty long reach to the dynamic feed search companies in which results from AJ or DH, along with MS and Google, seem to significantly affect ranking.

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So, is this SE going to move into the "pay for spidering" forum? :) Sorry, I couldn't resist..
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It is Jeeves, you pay for the service.

;)

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> the tandom of AJ/DH...
- Submit to AJ and DH or would that be: Teoma and DH?
4:56 am on Feb 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

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>is this SE going to move into the "pay for spidering" forum?

ROFL... GoogleGuy, why don't you ask Jeeves?

Sorry, I couldn't resist that either. :)

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Not sure where you get the idea that AJ doesn't have a lot of traffic. Have you looked at the rankings lately? #14 Web site and #2 search engine next to Google in terms of traffic. And, unlike Viacom, About or other sites in the top 20, AJ traffic comes primarily from its flagship site, with only a fraction coming from DH and Ajkids.
11:28 am on Feb 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Listed a few sites late Feb 14 but still find them "Queued for Ask Jeeves" as of today. Thought getting in early may get them spidered in less than the "guaranteed 7 day turnaround" but no luck so far.

Any one had any luck getting a listing out of the que yet...

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Agreed Jen. DH can really crank out the referrals under top kw's.
Truth be told? One of the key ingredients to this sites success has been Direct Hit.
I'm not one for trophy cases, but if I ever build one, two three year old listings from DH will be stuffed and mounted front and center. (you'd cry if you knew the numbers)
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