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Best strategy for getting a listing changed

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fom2001uk

4:30 pm on Sep 29, 2002 (gmt 0)

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One of our clients has a Yahoo listing which is really out of date. The URL has changed since, and the description doesn't do them any favours. I suggested they try to get a new listing (as a replacement, NOT an addition) and I believe they have a strong case, because the site's focus and content has changed a lot since the original site was reviewed.

But what's the best way of doing this?

1. Contact Yahoo and ask them nicely.
2. Just pay for BizExpress, but own up to having a listing already and explain the reasons for requesting the new listing (in the comment box).
3. Just pay for Biz Express, but don't tell them about the old listing.

Timona

1:57 am on Sep 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The best is to first submit a change form [add.yahoo.com] with a short and polite explanation as to why the change is needed.

That has been the most successfull for me.:)

skibum

4:33 pm on Sep 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Back before it was a recurring yearly fee we got a few updated by submitting another bix-ex to replace the outdated listing.

Never had any response in the form of a reply or change of listing from the URL update form.

jatar_k

4:36 pm on Sep 30, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have always had fairly good luck with the form. That should, definitely, be your first approach.

It isn't always lightning fast but if the reason is valid you should have it happen in a few weeks, in my experience.

2_much

7:38 pm on Oct 1, 2002 (gmt 0)

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To be honest, I think the best way is just to pay for a new listing. If you do this, you can give the website a title with your primary keyword, and you have more control over it.

The disadvantage is that it'll be a brand new URL and you'll have to build the PR.

However, you can't pay to change the listing for the old URL, and changing a description is next to impossible.

Even though you pay for a new submission, if you get a good title and description and work on your Page Rank you can easily earn the money back.

fom2001uk

5:16 pm on Oct 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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My first thought was just to pay for the listing. It IS a different URL, but the Title of the site is the same (same organization), so won't Yahoo spot this as an existing listing?

Tor

5:50 pm on Oct 2, 2002 (gmt 0)

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...won't Yahoo spot this as an existing listing?

My experience is that they will "catch" you

lgn

3:16 pm on Oct 3, 2002 (gmt 0)



And if they catch you. They will delete your
listing but keep your money. Best to be upfront
and above board when it comes to YAHOO

2_much

1:59 am on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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fom2001uk - if it's the same title, they will catch you.

to resubmit, you need a different domain and title.

Tor

1:31 pm on Oct 4, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Yes, I absolutely agree with 2_much on this: New domainand new title

Mark_A

6:50 am on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I have a similar issue pressing at the moment.

An old site on an old domain is in yahoo.co.uk in a poor category no longer relevant from the businesses pov and with tiny Google PR.

We have a new site on a new domain which targets an international audience and we want it in a yahoo.com category. The old site has not yet been taken down and is still on the www though it will be changed to a text / hyperlink redirect at some point until all links to it have been redirected.

I am assuming the best course is to remove (via change form) the existing listing to the old domain, then submit the new listing to the new category via Bizsubmit.

Anyone confirm this as best tactic or have any other tips?

2_much

10:16 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hey Mark, I suggest you leave the old listing as is and simply submit the new one. There's no reason why you can't have 2 listings, especially since the content changed and is considerably different now.

Mark_A

7:50 pm on Oct 27, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Bump ..

2much I took the old site down and used a change form request to have the yahoo.uk listing removed 10 days ago.

No reply and no change to the listing yet.

Want to make the buz submission to yahoo.com but dont want to loose my money because the yahoo.uk listing is still there, (its a company name in the title, impossible not to find the duplicate) how long should I wait before ...

1. Using the form again .. or

2. Risking the yahoo.com buz submission?

2_much

8:11 pm on Oct 28, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Mark if it's easy to find the duplicate then they will find it and reject your other site. I'd wait for something to happen to the change form.

You could also try emailing Yahoo.co.uk and asia.yahoo.com, I've had success making changes with these two Yahoo's, but not Yahoo.com