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2_much

10:00 am on Sep 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Written by one of our very own, agerhart:

[searchengineguide.com...]
Yahoo! Dismissed Too Soon
By Andrew Gerhart - September 12, 2001

There have been many discussions, and numerous articles, about the search engine or directory that gives the best referrals. Almost every one of the articles and discussions disparages Yahoo! and instead praises Google or others. Noticing this, I decided to do some research on how effective a good Yahoo! listing really is to a search engine optimization campaign. After looking at some of our sites that receive the most traffic, I noticed that Yahoo is continuously in either first or second place in the referral race.

If you are not familiar with the Yahoo! directory, you can take a look at their description of themselves here [docs.yahoo.com...] The directory also offers the option of searching a database of websites, which is powered by Google.

Most of the talk I have seen about Yahoo! has been about there recent change in the price of submission from $199 to $299. The recent rise in the submission price has many small business owners and webmasters angered. While the feeling of anger may be warranted, as $299 is a lot of money for submission, it is necessary to take a look at what is being offered.

When you submit a site to the Yahoo! directory, the website is guaranteed to be reviewed by a Yahoo! editor within 7 days. This doesn't mean that they will send their spiders to your website, it means that an actual person will sit down and review your website. Yahoo! does not make any guarantees that it will include your website into their directory after submission, only that it will consider the site. (This means that you must be very careful when preparing for submission, and there are many things to consider. This will be discussed later.) Yahoo! currently holds the #1 spot for the most used portal and directory. A good Yahoo! listing can have many positive effects on your website, the traffic to your website, and your website's listing in other places.

Let's say that you have a #2 listing in the Yahoo! directory for your category, and a #3 ranking in Yahoogle (Yahoo searches powered by Google). Not only does this give your website great exposure within the directory, but will also effect your ranking in Google. Google has been noticed to boost a website's ranking in their search engine results if it has a good listing in Yahoo and ODP.

Another positive affect that Yahoo! can have on your online business is the targeted traffic that your website will receive. If you have ever looked at a traffic log, like Web Trends, you will notice that once in a while someone got to your website from a search that is way off topic. This happens from time to time in within search engines, but is extremely rare within directories. Bottom line: all of the traffic from a Yahoo! listing is targeted.

It's back again…link popularity is a factor to consider when thinking about Yahoo!. While link popularity will not play a factor in your listing, your link popularity may benefit from a good listing in the directory and search results pages. When building link popularity it is best practice to link to, and have links from, sites that are listed high in directories and ranked well within the search engines. With Yahoo! currently being the most used portal on the Internet, there may be a correlation between a good listing and the amount of link requests if the correct methods and options are applied.

All of the things mentioned above are dependent on one thing: your website receiving a good listing in the directory. As the submission fee is non-refundable and the website will be human-reviewed, there are certain things to watch out for when preparing your website.

Review the website in all browsers for consistency and functionality
Review the website under numerous resolutions for consistency
Make sure that the site has NO broken links (Linkbot is a good tool for this)
Use original content
The site is going to be reviewed by a human, and if they feel that they already have 20 sites that have the same content they will pass by your site
Have your entire website completed and no pages "under construction"
Perfect the title of your index page
Perfect the description that you will submit to Google.
Search results are based upon keywords that appear in a website's title and description and the algorithm that Yahoo! uses.
The main idea that you should deduce is to have a fully functional and useful website that Yahoo! will see as a positive addition to their directory.

A good way to ease the pain of paying Yahoo! $299 for submission is to think of the investment in terms of return on investment (ROI). You are going to submit your online business, which sells either a service or a product, for $299. Once you submit the website and it is listed in the directory, it is there for good. The traffic that you receive from Yahoo! may be relatively low, as it is targeted traffic. There is also a chance that you receive huge amounts of traffic from Yahoo! and Yahoogle. In either case, you will see a return on investment at some point, whether it is in 2 months, 6 months, or 2 years.

satanclaus

3:46 pm on Sep 19, 2001 (gmt 0)



Great article agerheart

Most ppl you ask will say that "original content" is an integral factor in getting yourself listed. I find this is not the case in the 100+ sites I've had to deal with listing in Yahoo. To me editors are more impressed with a somewhat original design and a sufficient amount of content. Since the introduction of the pay per listing system it seems that it doesn't really matter if the content you provide already exist X times over as long as you provide enough of it.

agerhart

3:49 pm on Sep 19, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Thanks SatanClaus

zechariah

12:38 am on Sep 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Very true indeed agerheart, very true indeed this is definitely a known fact - Yahoo - the cornerstone of the web ! Agree?

agerhart

5:29 pm on Sep 20, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I think that it is largely important, but I think that it depends on the goals of the website...if your website is merely for information or hobby, then I doubt Yahoo is too important to you, but if you are providing a servie or product of any kind.....yes, I would say that Yahoo is the cornerstone of the web.....along with Google

zimbab

1:32 am on Oct 1, 2001 (gmt 0)



thankyou for the useful information on website submission to yahoo.....
I obviously need to a lot of work on my actual page ...before attempting any submission
How much significance does the url have - it obviously gets harder and harder to find a perfect domain name as time goes by. Is it best for the site's main subject to be a standalone word in the url, or is hyphenated better or is one long combined word - with another key word better?
The other issue is the ranking of .com or .net vs other extensions.
I would appreciate some advice
many thanks Karen

FreeBee

8:30 am on Oct 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

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Your URL selection is important. In respect of the directories for which your site will undergo editorial review it can be likened to the naming of a new company. Get it as close as you can to the subject of the site, try and keep it short, difficult to misspell and easy to remember. Technically, hyphenation is no problem – just think of how the domain rolls off the tongue on the one hand or maybe gets stuck in the throat on the other. You’ll find many instances where a single long word is used with success with both SE’s and directories.

The URL is obviously also very important for search engines – use it for keyword placement. SE's don't really care how it sounds or looks.

In both cases, no need to go overboard. Content is still king!

For the top level domain decision - the .com or .net are pretty much alike in terms of acceptability to SE's. They have an advantage over "regionalised" tld's in my opinion.

Hey zimbab - welcome aboard! You’ve definitely come to the right place :)

4eyes

8:51 am on Oct 1, 2001 (gmt 0)

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I broadly agree with the importance of Yahoo - both for traffic in its own right and the "knock on" effect.

However, its importance varies depending on the number of relevant 'key phrases' that you are targeting.

eg One of my customers sells a single product - his key phrases don't extend far beyond the Yahoo description. For him, Yahoo is No1 traffic provider by miles.

Another customer has a 200 page site selling a wide range of related equipment. Each page displays a different item and gets found No1 or 2 on Google for the associated phrase ("manufacturersname modelname"). Despite a highly relevant description, his traffic from Yahoo is less than 10% of his traffic from Google. The Google traffic was there before his site got into Yahoo. Any engine that succesfully spiders all 200 pages is going to have an advantage of sorts in this case.

Yahoo is still top - depending on the type and size of site.

zimbab

10:25 pm on Oct 1, 2001 (gmt 0)



FreeBee and 4eyes ... thank you so much for your advice ......... I shall now get to work!!! :)