multiple listings

only possible for paid submissions?

[heini]

Please forgive me if this is a pretty dull question...
I just saw a competitorīs site with multiple listings in yahoo (german that is). The site is listed in the respective general cat plus there are single pages listed for more specialised cats.
I never knew this was possible. My site was submitted for free, and I should guess my competitors site too. Or did they go for the paid submission and have paid for each listing?
Any suggestions?
Thanks!

[Hunter]

Heieni,

You can obtain multiple listings if you site content warrents it and is organized to take advantage of them. Commercial sites must pay for each listing submission. Non-Commercial Sites are free.

The best way to create a strategy for multiple listings is through study of existing multiple listings in the directory.

[2_much]

Hi Heini,

My experience matches Hunter's. It is possible, but it entails some research and probably a bit of luck.

Let us know how it goes!

[heini]

Thanks Hunter and 2_much.
The content of said site is organised in pretty much the same way as mine.
I had yahoo just change my description. They were very fast to response and though they didnīt exactly accept my suggested text Iīm happy with the changes they made.
Now I donīt want to risk annoying them by pressing for more listings. Iīd rather eventually come up in most popular sites in my main cat.
So I guess I should use a rather lightfooted approach on this...

[JamesR]

How long has your competitor's site been in the directory? I have seen some old sites with many listings before Yahoo started to get more formal about that sort of thing.

[heini]

JamesR
They are longer in Yahoo than my sites are online. But the additional listings they have in subcats must be new, just because yahoo has just created the whole set of subcats. Example: If the main cat weīre both in were pets, then this new set of subcats would be one for cats (itīs getting confusing now..), dogs, rabbits, canaries etc.

[Newbie]

Of course, it is also possible to buy a new domain, copy your site but change the color and add an extra section (unique content). I have seen this done time and time again. Of course, that is kinda spaming. But if your competitor has done it, you may also want to consider it.

I had the problem once where I submitted (and paid for) each main sub-directory of my large site as they sort of told me that was ok (Having already been listed and wanting to compete more like other sites, I submitted a main sub-directory on my same site, it got denied because of some dumb reason, then got approved when I appealed), so I went ahead and submitted more, which all got denied because they all belonged to the same site!!

In the end, Yahoo and I agreed a deal where they listed all the important keywords in my description! Which is key; get those keywords in your URL, Title and / or description. And then you do not have to worry :-)

[heini]

Newbie
itīs not about getting listed with all my KW: would be hundreds of different phrases.
What Iīm really aiming at is the extra boost in Google from multiple yahoo listings.
The traffic coming from yahoo directory is in my case not so important. Might be much better, if we could get in "most popular sites".
My competitors extra listings in said subcats are for single pages, not even subdirectories.

[JamesR]

heini, imo paid submission is way too risky as Yahoo could always go back to their policy of "your site is already in...thanks for the $199). I guess I would submit the pages that are similar to your competitors to each of the subcats for free. Before you do, try to "one up" your competitor....make sure all your pages are better than his and offer more than his do. If the same editor reviews yours, you have more of a fighting chance of getting in if your content and quality out do a site that is already in.

[Hunter]

I agree with JamesR
>Before you do, try to "one up" your competitor

The best results from yahoo come from following their rules (until you know how to break them) and learn from what is working by studying the high ranking sites within. Don't try to re-invent the wheel, just focus on improving it (your site) by offering more than anyone else. You have an advantage. Your listed competitors have already played their hand (for the moment), so use what they have done to help you "leapfrog" over them.

[heini]

JamesR, Hunter
Thanks for the advise. I think Iīll add some content to a handful of pages, stuff which is not to be found on my competitors pages, and try submitting them slowly, one by one. Chances are good as those subcats are new and need to be filled.
Iīll have to move swiftly but cautiously...