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Also, that whole title change thing [webmasterworld.com] looks like a plague spreading through the web at the moment.
Anyone else seeing it?
The past few months, Yahoo! has stubbornly listed a meaningless internal page of mine at #2 while my homepage was at #18.
Now, there's a reversal. My homepage is #2 for my main keyword, the internal page at #18 and the #1 is an article scraped from my site, appearing on a geocities site!
The top ten is still full of amazon listings, library book listings and directories.
again....LOL!Sob!Sob! I don't know to laugh or cry at the serps...
I have seen as many as 6 pages from the same domain show in the top 20 for a one word query.
I have seen duplicate pages galore. I know of one site that was redesigned 2-3 years ago. It can still be found at www.example.com and www.example.com/newsite (the original testbed). These SERPs show both as distinct sites.
I do not agree. Any piece of traffic is good and if you rank fine it could be 8 - 10 % and usually good traffic ( shopping visitors),
My experience ( in the long period ) is that if you rank fine in Google, you will rank fine on Yahoo.......
We usually suffer a temporary drop in SERPs following an update only to come back in a week or two. This appears to be the first time we've actually increase in referrals from the start.
Yahoo's traffic is so tiny now that this is hardly worth talking about.
Then why are you talking about it? :)
I have seen no indication that their traffic has decreased and every report I have seen from the various sources that monitor this stuff suggests they are about the same. We do 7 figures off Yahoo SERPS alone. Everyone understand that google is the King of traffic, but if you aren't making money in Yahoo/Overture, you aren't doing a great job at SEO/SEM. When I see posts that show their traffic is 95% google, I have to chuckle - all you are doing is admitting that youa re horrific at optimizing for Yahoo and msn which make up for at least 20% of all US traffic!
Yahoo is Yahoo. Some serps are good, others are poor. Overall, their services are improving but the search remains pretty much the same. If anyone cares to open a serious discusion purely about how they are scoring sites/the algo, I would surely participate. In this thread it will be "my site this or that" or Yahoo is spam/sucks...so not much to post other than tere have NOT been major changes, rather a few subtle changes, that appear to be more side effects than anything.
I just checked stats. Yahoo used to account for around 25% of our traffic, on Friday it was 38% - so we did see a good bump.
Now if I could only get some traffic from MSN - 0.5% :(
Lo and behold, when you search for my sites name, you get a horrible smattering of spam sites and my site is nowhere to be found.
Truly. I'm shocked.
The site that was dropped is an incredible site: 5 years old, tens of thousands of active users, thousands of hand-written and hand edited articles, and a hand edited on target directory.
The top listing when you search for this site now now at Yahoo is mysitename.CA instead of .COM and it's a horrid spam directory/link farm.
I've sent multiple emails to Yahoo explaining my plight to no avail. The site has been dropped and been replaced by the most repugnant spam I've ever seen.
My fear is we are witnessing the 'Yahoo Dance' where lower ranking sites in the Yahoo algorithm rise to the top as the new algorithm is rolled out across all sites. Top ranking sites fall in ranking first as they are the first sites to be evaluated under the algorithm update. Consequently, some sites may stay where they are now, (if they are better suited to the changes) while the majority of sites will drop back to where they ranked prior to the 'update' or to some other meaningless position.
This is the same affect we witness when google algorithm changes are rolled out - where top performing sites drop down rankings and lower ranked sites gain more visibility only for the majority of sites to go back to where they ranked previously after a couple of weeks.
All extra traffic is welcomed and I have noticed several of the yahoo visitors bookmarking my site, so hopefully this will bring me more repeat visitors. However, I do fear it is only short term while they roll out their changes and eventually the full index will have undergone the alorithm update and once again settle back into their 'organic' rank positions.
[edited by: Ganceann at 5:54 pm (utc) on Jan. 21, 2007]
joined:Mar 2, 2006
I'm also seeing Yahoo! displaying the wrong "local search listing" now, under the description part of every listing of our client's homepage (which really sucks because that client is a huge industry leader whose homepage shows up for just about every industry keyphrase you could think of).
It looks like this:
Red Widget Consortium
Lots of talk about red widgets and companies that make them.
<< Johnny's Widgets >>
I'll admit they do list that site on their site but, then again, they list ALL the red widget sites and that particular local listing shouldn't have any logical reason to be there over any others. Why wouldn't Y just display the local search listing that MATCHES the site they're results listing?