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Yahoo! Search Launches AddURL

http://submit.search.yahoo.com/

         

Tim

4:33 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As promised at Pubcon the free ADDURL has been launched on the Yahoo! site. It is only available right now directly at: [submit.search.yahoo.com...]
You need to log into Yahoo.com to use this service.

This URL will be linked to from the search pages shortly.

DaBull

5:39 am on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Tim,

I need some serious help. I can't seem to get my site into yahoo search. I have great rankings in google PR7 site with good backlinks. I was able to get a connect to someone who knew the search guys at Inktomi and said I was penalized for participating in some sort of link deal that they say penalized me. I have removed all participation in that 8 months ago. I have submitted via position tech & site match. And have also emailed position tech & yahoo and got nothing but canned responses. I still cant get listed. Any suggestions on where else to go?
Thanks for your help.

Tim

5:51 am on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Dabull
I think you may have already emailed me about this and I am taking care of it. I have been at SES so just forwarded that on to someone to take care of.
Tim

extremegolfer

6:03 am on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)



Hello All:

Just wondering when and if MSN and Hotbot are going to be listing the site I submit via the "free crawl" on Yahoo. Would anyone (Tim) like to comment...

DaBull

6:05 am on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Tim,

Thx, but this is the first time I have contacted you unless you get the feedback directly from the yahoo feedback on their website, but beyond that I haven't contacted you. Maybe I am mistaken, I'm forgetful like that ;-). I will PM you the URL if thats an OK way to send it to you. If not let me know.
Thx again and kudos to Yahoo for keeping so in touch with the webmaster community on this new switch.
Da Bull

landmark

9:26 am on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Was this announced anywhere else? Is this a test to get a list of WW members sites?

There's a "Submit your site" link at the foot of the Yahoo search results page.

Arctrust

12:40 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hello Tim:

I am in deep trouble and seek some help.

I have a Yahoo store and rank fairly well on G and ranked fairly well on Yahoo until the switch. Then the bottom fell out.

All but 9 pages remained on Yahoo and even after tweaking.... no movement whatsoever. I have been a big supported of Y and even give a class on how to open a Y store, and now I can barely put soda on the dinner table.

What can be done to get the pages back?
How can we optimize?
How long does it take to get re-crawled and position adjusted in the SERP's (up or down)

Based on what I see in the results, the only sites that rank well are the ones that originally were submitted for free (3-4 years ago)

If anyone has any suggestions please post them.

I think from what it looks like in my cataegory, only the true legacy listing currently rank well and no matter what you do - they cannot be re-ranked.

Thanks.

ARC

silane

2:26 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>I love it Tim! Yahoo is to be congratulated on allowing free submissions!
Dan<<

Nothing great to congrate about. SE needs your website contents to make their bulk database, without your websites, a search does not work. I see it is a mutal help. No SE can survive on free inclusion only.

lost in space

3:05 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Got about 5 timeouts, but the sixth try did work successfully! Thanks Yahoo :)

stcrim

3:28 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>>I have a Yahoo store

It will be interesting to see if Yahoo is willing to help their own customers.

-s-

alexi

3:33 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do you think I should submit my site via free Add URL or Y's Site Match if my site is already listed in the Y Directory?

The directory placement seems to have devalued in terms of clicks delivered (the caterogry my site is in did not grow in the past 2 years, but I now get only 1 click per day from the directory compared to 3-4 per day last year), or maybe Y spiders toooo many pages now? I guess this is because the directory placement per se no longer boosts your ranking in the search results.

Anyone has noticed any difference in how their Y directory placement has influenced their Y-delivered traffic of late?

flobaby

3:42 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My directory listing never gets shown anymore and I'm in the Most Popular section for my category. I'm sure it has something to do with the redirect problem which has wiped out my index from any Yahoo/Ink searches. The directory listing used to appear consistently when Google ran the search show.

Sunset_Jim

4:38 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Tim,

In an earlier post you said: "We are looking into having a feature in the new program where we will rereview your site when you enter the program and give you a chance to get off the blacklist. I will let you know if and when this feature is available."

Do you know any more at this time about if or when this will happen and if it does happen, what the process will be? Also, could you elaborate on what you mean by "enter the program."

As you know, many of us have had our sites dropped or deleted from the Yahoo SERPS for reasons unknown to us and we desperately need to know how we can get back in. Also, before I signup for expensive services I would like to know that my site has a chance of being found in the SERPS

nanocet

6:11 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It will be interesting to see if Yahoo is willing to help their own customers.

Recent acts by Yahoo would seem to indicate otherwise.
Yahoo Shopping used to be basically an exclusive portal for Yahoo Store merchants. With the recent changes to a PPC model for Yahoo Shopping, a large percentage of Y Store owners opted out, because they have absolutely no control over the PPC costs (they are fixed by Y), and many stores just can't justify it. Yahoo pulled the plug on Y Store owners that wouldn't do the PPC thing several days ago (Mar 2nd).
Now most of what you see in Y Shopping are online sites that currently pay nothing to Y at all, but are freely spidered by Yahoo for that purpose. Y has added tehm so that the mall doesn't look so empty. Y isn't making a dime from these sites.
Instead of keeping the Y Stores, which pay Y a percentage of the transaction, they instead dropped them out entirely. Seems like pretzel logic to me.
If someone pays you a percentage, wouldn't you want to have them in your shopping portal so that you might get more revenue from them when you help them make a sale?
Sorry for veering off-topic that far.

Arctrust

8:50 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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nanocet:

We are in deep trouble since this last fiasco with Yahoo... Yes we were forced into the shopping portal which delivers poor results.... and now... with over 2500 pages dropped out of Yahoo and with only 9 remaining URL's it makes one wonder what Terry S is thinking of....

For starters... the PPC charge for adult sites is cheaper than for shopping sites...This is a great way to introduce a new portal - YAHOO-SEX!

Thousands of our URL's have been dropped

Clicks and conversions have plummeted

Sites are not re-crawled for re-positioning ( down or up ) and lastly.... and noticebly....

Legacy sites which got into Yahoo for free years ago remain...

Tim.... There must be something that can be done about this.... There must be something, someone....any suggetsions?

I am not saying that Y store owners should rank above all other sites - God knows there is a lot of sites not deserving to have position 800 never mind 8 but for quality sites, Yahoo stores with 5 star ratings.... there must be a way to solve this problem aeven to incetivize people who want to open Yahoo stores.

Thanks in advance

ARC

albert

11:40 pm on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Tim,

you've started riding it. Hope you can wipe out if necessary ;)

Here's what I've got repeatedly:

time out

Should I be happy to find this one:

Please expect a delay of several weeks before your URL is crawled.

Loving Google, but liking some real competition :)

Thanks,
Albert

Nacho

2:53 am on Mar 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Tim for this new feature. We hope it is among many good, effective and ethical ways for us webiste owners/designers/webmasters to help create the new Yahoo! free crawl index.

In making this happen, will there be a page to REMOVE a URL as well (with it's rules and process of course)?

Saludos!

Tim

2:12 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nacho,
That is a good point- we should have this available. I know one of our competitors does. I will be put this on the list of things we should try to do.
Thanks

companyone

3:25 am on Mar 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

How about they index something?

Between Yahoo & Inkomi.... I now have over 30 URL's no longer anywere...Its like they fell in "cyber-neverland"

Regards,
Dan

Tatyana

11:50 am on Mar 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There's a "Submit your site" link at the foot of the Yahoo search results page

Landmark,
this is to submit sites for review in the directory. there doesn't appear to be any link to the free add url facility

Internethydraulics

7:19 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I presume this free URL add at Yahoo is an alternative to Overture Site Match to stem criticism? Is it temporary? Will the results be displayed below the Overture Site Match results in Yahoo? What are dynamics of the free results between the Site Match results?

Are existing sites that have been in Yahoo both search and directory and Inktomi for years going to be removed? Is there a benefit to resubmitting them in the free URL add?
Are the free URL add going to be reviewed by humans, doubtful I would think?

What changes does Yahoo have in mind for directory listings in concert with the search listing changes? For example if you are paying the annual listing fee in the directory it seems ludicrous you would be precluded from the search results or have to pay more to be included?

thanks

mayor

7:57 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nacho >> a page to REMOVE a URL

Yesssss, please, so I can remove all those spammy sites that outrank me, lol.

EliteWeb

8:00 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I still wanna know if submitting 1000+ sites is gonna make someone mad. ;) I dont wanna trigger anything automatically and I know if I talked to someone at Yahoo they would say all the unique sites are fine and I just have a huge collection but im scared I will penalize myself.

DaveN

8:07 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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EliteWeb , you go first :)

DaveN

outland88

9:11 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Tim,

Isn't the idea of a manual review of penalized Inktomi PFI sites really an implication that penalties were pretty subjective to begin with in Inktomi. With all the spam I'm seeing in Yahoo putting these paid Ink sites, with questionable penalties, through further hoops is a little ridiculous, unfair, and overbearing. Give it a break. If the same manual review were applied to most sites in Yahoo now millions of sites would dissappear.

My solution is to let the smaller questionably penalized sites back in immediately and for Yahoo to quit costing them further business. If Yahoo's spam filters are working properly they'll boot the dups. If it isn't working you really don't have to much more spam than you've already got, do you.

Let's get some fairness going on this issue. Site owners aren't payed like you are. Plus what about this April 15th deadline when paid sites were never in Yahoo to begin with.

cyberfyber

9:24 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well said, outland88

!

twebdonny

9:59 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)



Ditto, Outland88

outland88

10:39 pm on Mar 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The major point I didn't bring out is if you're doing a manual review then its only logical to assume you don't know what's penalized to begin with or why it was ever penalized in the first place. If people have paid these resellers remove the penalties and put them back in immediately. That's what is fair.

If its hundreds of pages from a site that can be your red flag for a penalty. Anything else other than dups you're just wasting people's time.

seasalt

12:01 am on Mar 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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With all the spam I'm seeing in Yahoo putting these paid Ink sites, with questionable penalties, through further hoops is a little ridiculous, unfair, and overbearing.

My thoughts exactly.

seasalt

helenp

12:07 am on Mar 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I do think all of us agree with that.
And I am starting to think,
how many of us are there out there?
seeing same problems in our forums as well.

And how many that donīt have stats, donīt know they are banned yet?
I didnīt have stats until january, thats when I saw whats was going on.
Actually I found this forum searching for an answer of my problem.

I would go for site match, but I canīt afford that.

apays14

12:40 am on Mar 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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tim, just want to see if you received my stickymail

thanks

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