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Espotting still alive?

I though the site was off since the company became Miva, and then...



2:10 pm on Jul 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I looked in my bookmark, and I clicked by accident on the Espotting link, I though I would be redirected to Miva since they changed the name of the company. Surprise! A directory presenting Miva Pay-Per-Click results.

Looking at the content, it seems that they are using the Pay-Per-Click campaigns from their network to generate extra revenue.

Does this look super dodgy to you, cause for me it just confirmed that this company is just getting as much money as possible from their advertisers, delivering no results!

Also, I am based in North America and I can still see and click on PPC links. Aren't they supposed to have some king of geo-targetting? Obviously, if it is in place, it's not very efficient...

Finally, if I remember right, Miva is supposed to be independent, right? So, how come they got such a site? Dodgy...

Please comment


7:15 pm on Jul 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Actually while you might expect them to redirect the old domain over to Miva.com, the traffic on the old espot domain should be small but ok, as none of it will be partner based or incentivised. Not that this is a reason for bad traffic but we know it can be. I haven't looked closely but I imagine the only tracking code in there is their own.

Whatever you think of Miva's network as a whole the traffic from the Espotting.com domain should be decent, a lot is probably natural traffic hitting it from old links. However it probably doesn't drive that much volume by itself as their volume is established in the distribution network I believe.

Of course I don't know for sure, phone and ask them.


6:02 pm on Jul 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's not a question of trafic on this site, it's a question of ethic! If you say I am a vegeterian and 5 min later I see you in McDonald, you loose all your credibility!

Here it's the same thing, they say "MIVA doesn't compete with its affiliates", and then they have their site doing PPC from their own network! Who wants to see their ads on this? No one! Or do you?


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