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missgirl

2:43 pm on Jan 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Since two weeks some of my domains are suddenly gone in MSN search, before they had been on good positions on the first page. And only the index page is gone, the others are still there. Is anybody experiencing the same thing?

followgreg

4:12 pm on Jan 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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...for what I watch : still homepages missing on new sites...no need to do a 'google' MSN...won't work that way :P

outland88

6:00 pm on Jan 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Any updates with regard to MSN kicking out sites?

MetricsGuru

6:23 pm on Jan 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Many of my client's rankings are begining to return over the weekend. I would not say it's a full recovery, maybe about 60-70%.

afterburner

9:28 pm on Jan 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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msn is the fastest moving engine right now, rankings for some sites I monitor are changine every 48 hours.

followgreg

11:06 pm on Jan 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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MSNdude is welcome to give a feedback on this one....for the sites I watch most of the newest have no homepage listed while they are crawled everyday...

followgreg

8:03 am on Jan 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Still no homepages, are these tests completed or not? Feedback please

outland88

2:02 am on Jan 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It seems to me if they were testing it would be to eliminate sites. I wouldn't think if they ended the tests sites would be coming back. The exception would be known glitches that brought some sites back partially or fully.

Didn't MSN suggest they were using data or something else from Yahoo and DMOZ to go after spam? Wasn't there some partnership on the matter.

followgreg

7:13 am on Jan 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't know what is going on for sure, but using DMOZ won't make fresh SERP.

In addition I fail to understand the logic which for A BRAND NEW site would make the homepage disapearing FROM SCRATCH when the subdomains stick on top of results for a search for the domain name itself.

I really fail to understand the logic there and I am very disapointed to what they seem to try, doesn't make sense to me.

I also saw very fine 'niche authority' website which are not in DMOZ (who says we have to submit and add up to their 2 million backlog and get a chance not to be included sometimes for dubious reasons) outranked by 'not so authority' site which THEM are in DMOZ but that doesn't make them more relevant overall....disapointing so far!

BillyS

3:46 am on Jan 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Anyone notice an update on MSN? I seem to be getting more traffic lately.

followgreg

7:18 am on Jan 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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HEY MSNDUDE :)

When do HOMEPAGES COME BACK?

Seriously...my company has 2 new sites and both are screwed up while crawled everyday, I don't understand. No homepage?:((( What the hell? We don't spam anything! Wrong filter guys...wrong filter...

dupac

3:02 am on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It happened to our site today, all pages gone from MSN.
Our site index page is also not there.
link: and site: is showing pages in MSN. But for site: it shows our index page rank 4th rather than 1st.
Seems like its stuck in some filter.
This is the 1st time our site is wiped off MSN. We havent made any changes lately and follow best practices.
MSN Dude can you let us know whats going on with MSN Search? I will appreciate your feedback.

followgreg

6:23 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm sounds like something is wrong in their algo tweaks, they tried to eliminate spam and finally got rid of lots of legitimate sites as well - that sucks!

afterburner

11:47 am on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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does anyone know the best way to report spam sites to msn.com? I have found several domains that are in obvious violation of search engine ethics. Please sticky mail me if you do.
Thanks
afterburner

dupac

5:58 pm on Jan 31, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What can we do to get our site back in MSN.
We have been in MSN from day 1 of their search enigne lunch and we do not participate in any black hat tricks.

We have been really cautious about all SEO activities on our site, but this changes has effected us because MSN was a good source of users for our site.

MSN dude help over here. I want to do things right, so any kind of suggestion will be really apprecaites.

followgreg

9:54 am on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>afterburner: there is no best way I know of, just the feeback link on bottom of the result page.

So far most URL's are still gone...sometimes even a subdomain (which has a ridiculous 2 or 3 pages with no more than 50 words) ranks better than the main domain.
URL's indexed seemed to be way old but msnbot still comes visiting the sites...#*$!?

Could it be a robots.txt issue? I dunno I am trying to figure out something but it seems like MSN has quite a few VERY annoying bugs unfortunately.

Susan

3:35 am on Feb 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

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One of my sites that previously enjoyed a number 3-5 ranking is now wiped off of MSN. I have been emailing the CSR's who have been reiterating over and over that it takes a long time to gain rank, completely not listening to my complaint that it WAS in the rankings, but now the index page is absolutely no where to be found. Of course it was excalated, but that was a week ago and still no response. Has anyone else had luck with the return of their site to the rankings?

ramachandra

7:35 am on Feb 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Is new spam algorithms implemented? cause I am not seeing any changes in my niche.

dupac

3:11 pm on Feb 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Same thing has happened to us, we were on 1st page and we are no where to be found.
MSN Dude any suggestion will be helpful.
The thing which is hurting more is that on one is talking about this issue.

mikey158

2:49 pm on Feb 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well ... the phenomena continues.

Solid page one rankings relevant to my site and *Poof* ... page 7. No changes since last known ranking (yesterday). Its very strange, and it would be nice if MSNDude would comment.

Hopefully, I will have the same fate as a few others and return to normal *SOON* :)

Receptional

4:37 pm on Feb 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



and it would be nice if MSNDude would comment.

To be fair, the phenomena still sounds much like he said it would in post 17 on this thread. "A couple of weeks" in Microsoft terms probably means at least a month or two! :)

steveb

7:34 pm on Feb 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Normal" on MSN is sites changing from page on to page seven every few days. You guys who somehow have had these oddball consistent ranking that you think is "right" need to look at the rest of the serps, especially in competitive areas... sebeth one day, fifty-six the next, twenty-four the days after... that is how MSN has been acting for more than a year so get used to it.

Susan

8:51 pm on Feb 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm not surprised to see my sites at different positions, but when my index page was in position 3-5 for months and then not even indexed by doing site: I am lost as to why it is happening.

mikey158

9:09 pm on Feb 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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not for me steveb ... I have been in a consistent position for 6 months ... also this only seems to have happened to my site - all of my competitors are in their normal places.

AjayDSouza

6:43 am on Feb 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Have faced the same problem since December. Am bothered since my site used to come on no.1 when searching for my name!

Am waiting and hoping that it comes back on the listing...

drall

5:18 pm on Feb 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Our network of pr 7 and 6 websites have been completely removed from MSN, this happened about 7 weeks ago but we just noticed today so that shows ya just how important MSN is to us ;)

As far as we can figure out it is a spam filter that is catching our network due to interlinking of the network. We shot off a email to them but honestly I could care less since we have over a million backlinks to our sites and several million users a month, if MSN cannot see that we are a authority and do not want us in there search engine because as most legit networks do interlink to show users there other properties it is there loss not ours.

Just goes to show just how messed up MSN really is.

drall

9:41 pm on Feb 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This just gets more and more funny. We shot them a email to MSN search support and asked why what I mentioned in the above post happened, we got a response back to the wrong person, ie they responded to the wrong ticket and had no less then 15 spelling mistakes in very broken english and then pointed us to hotmail support, told us we could respond back if we had anymore questions and those emails bounced when we tried to respond.

So there support responds back to the wrong ticket in broken english and sends us to the wrong dept and bounces emails. Seems about on par with the search engine they own hahaha.

budterm

5:43 pm on Feb 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well our index page is finally back in the index, and on Page 1. It was gone for at least 2 months, maybe more.

CainIV

7:50 am on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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that is how MSN has been acting for more than a year so get used to it.

Not true entirely. Number one for a popular hosting term, have been for over 5 months.

steveb

10:03 am on Mar 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Which is supposed to prove what? The comment still stands, and is obviously correct. Some results are stable, but drastic changes are common. If you havn't experienced it, then your horizons have now been broadened.

LunaC

2:46 pm on Mar 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I noticed something kind of odd with my missing site, if I search site url with a slash at the end there are no results, take of the slash and I get 1 URL, it changes daily which url is showing, but it's always an outbound tracking link.

These links are using 301's, the link itself is listed, not the true landing page, no description, title is my sites address and the cache is up to date (cached today for example). When I click the cached page, I get the message: "Could not find the requested document in the cache."

(For me this only works without using the www's, that could just be because my preferred url is without and www is 301'd to the non www.)

Also, link: without the slash and with the slash are showing different results as is with the www's and without.

Anyone else seeing anything odd like this? Is this normal behavior for MSN?

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