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Live switched to Bing

A new beta test interface for Msn Live search

   
7:23 am on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Today I noted that search.live.com switched to www.bing.com.

It is a Beta version, maybe working only in some countries.
I got bing.conm here in Italy.

The Algo seems to me more "local".
I am curious about the way bing.com find local results: one factor seems IP location...

3:09 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Bing was defualting to UK for me, i had to change my prefrence to USA
3:12 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Looks like they figured out how to avoid someone stealing their thunder... a surprise launch a few days early... =)
4:07 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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netmeg, it will learn. If enough of us search for netmeg and click on the 2nd result, I think it will learn that should be in the 1st position. :)

Looks like they figured out how to avoid someone stealing their thunder.

I'm thinking it was a brilliant move on their part. G seems to announce things on the same day as other big announcements. Not this time. Well, not yet anyway, the day isn't over with yet.

I'm thinking they're thinking they can get some play at SMX in Seattle.

I like bing. So far so good. Now if they can convince me to uninstall my Google Toolbar and use bing, it may go somewhere. Google is just too ingrained in the fabric of the Internet for any other SE to come knocking at it's door. But you never know, the time appears to be ripe for tugging at search share. There's a lot of negative press concerning G and it continues to escalate.

I wonder if the name selection goes back to the Hanna Barbera days and "Bing Bing Bing, Ricochet Rabbit"? :)

4:07 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Their running Google Adwords for some products we work, and it takes you to Bing images.

Interesting tactic to get people to use your search engine; pay to redirect people who are using your competitors search engine to yours.

4:58 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Lipstick on a pig... these are the same results as Live.com and that's where this whole thing falls apart.
5:08 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Interesting tactic to get people to use your search engine; pay to redirect people who are using your competitors search engine to yours.

ASK has been doing this for some time now.

5:18 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Lipstick on a pig... these are the same results as Live.com and that's where this whole thing falls apart.

Correct, the results are the same.

5:42 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Bing seems to be blessing in disguise for MSN. Much better search engine than live search engine.
5:48 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Some folks say same results as Live, some say same results as G... Which is it?
6:15 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It's definately Live.
6:54 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Time will tell, but the results for me look fairly similar to Google.

Will it last?

7:02 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Results are much different than Google is in our niche. They look a bit more yahoo to me.
7:08 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've just found this in the page source:

[3]<span style="display:none;">Search Results Provided By Google</span>[/3]

I think that explains things nicely. ;-)

8:09 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've just found this in the page source:

<span style="display:none;">Search Results Provided By Google</span>

I think that explains things nicely. ;-)

I don't see this. Anyone?

For me, Bing is very Yahooish.

8:13 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I've found 13 of my images in Bing being credited to other sites (by just typing in my domain url without the .com ending) despite being hotlinked from mine, they better solve that one soon.
8:16 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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My results are similar to old Live.com
(which isn't bad at all)
8:19 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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in the early morning when i open the live.com, it shows the bing.com, than again i type live.com, than it redirected to bing :) BTW: Design is good but not sure they have improved their search quality or not
8:26 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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The microsoft giant came into search too long after Google dominated the field.

To late to ring or ding or Bing.....

9:16 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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ohh the search results still suck big time, so nothing changed there, image search got better. About search results its still a pain, that when you make a search on bing.com and you are placed in lets say spain, you get spain results, but what i want it us results, why cant they do this like Google.
9:50 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I think MS has now made live.com cool! Which was what was missing the most. Attractive page with a cool name. They just might now have something. I can see why its called bing. People just might say 'Bing it' instead of 'Google it'.

Dont understand why the maps go to Multimap and not to bing.com/maps

Love the video results, nice touch.

Defently live.com results, but wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve tweaked the results by doing automated comparisions with Google results.

AnkitMaheshwari - I’m also seeing the exact same results from different global IP addresses.

Gethan - I'm starting to see a small trickle from 'bing.com / referral' appearing in Analytics.

Netmeg – u egosurfing u!

10:11 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Back links seem to be weighted far too heavily still. Makes it too easy to game - like G 5 years ago. Also looks like domain name plays too big a role.

Would agree that the results look more Yahooish at this point.

Certainly usable, though. Will be interesting to how the marketing department does...

10:14 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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My thought today: I like the feel, the idea, of having three major search engines, instead of just two. Or, really 1.5 major search engines.

Bing is a good thing.

10:17 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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OK, here's something they need to work on.

Site "a" has posted a direct link to one of my photos, just a plain old link. Click on it and it would load the image by itself, nothing fancy.

Bing shows my photo but the link takes you to the site "a" page where the direct link to my photo is posted, not directly to my photo.

10:58 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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impressive search engine, a world apart from the old scruffy MSN/Live.com

as for the logo i wouldnt complain : it's an obvious marketing trick, after all it's 100x times better than Google if you really think about it.

google looks good because you've seen millions of times.
but it's crap, and it was called crap by everybody when they launched their site years ago before getting rich.

it's a junk made with times new roman with MSpaint.exe
and now people say it's beatiful.

get a life.
it sucks, and it perfectly represents its own #*$!ty company.

11:13 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It just feels like the same with a new face except I also do like that rollover feature to the right of the listings that allow you to read content off the pages instead of actually having to click the site.

I checked our site and to my amazement, the content that it had scraped was perfect and it had our phone and email address.

Spiffy feature.

Of course will my bad habit of always going to Googelie change to become a Bingster....ummmmm......i doubt it.

11:26 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I think BING is seriously going to make Google sweat. I can do stuff like USD GBP to get currency rates, get weather reports by typing in "new york weather", get stock quotes etc. Very impressive.

I'm confused -- who are are you calling innovative here? Both Google and Bing do all three of those things.

11:42 pm on Jun 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

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sooner or later all this will be embedded in windozz
and google will have a hard time to cope with it.

google is the new Sperry.
(you need to be old school enough to get this joke)

12:20 am on Jun 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I saw Google ads for bing today!
12:56 am on Jun 2, 2009 (gmt 0)



sooner or later all this will be embedded in windozz
and google will have a hard time to cope with it.

That was Microsoft's strategy for the original MSN, which was integrated with Windows 95. The MSN online service even looked like Windows 95, with Win95 icons and folders. Unfortunately for Microsoft (and for people like me, who were on the MSN payroll), knocking AOL off its perch wasn't as simple as building MSN into the operating system.

1:06 am on Jun 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

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In some of my searches I'm getting pages on some of my sites that I removed 3 to 4 years ago. This is 'New and Improved'? NOT...
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