what keyword tool do you use?

[espsol]

Respected all...

Just want to know about your recommendation for keyword refining tools you preferably use as your trusted and most accurate keyword tool... please share your interesting experiences

thanks a lot!

-Anna

[pintu]

I always trust on Seo Book Keyword Suggestion Tool & Google AdWords Keyword Tool.

[espsol]

thanks pintu!

any one else please?

[Benjash]

Google Keyword tool, is probably the best. Most of the other keyword tools feed of that anyways. Very useful especially when you add the the PPC costs gives you an idea of the competition.

[SEO_Arbiter]

Google Adwords Tool is our top pick!

[ranold]

I always use Google Keyword Tool because it is the Worlds Best tool to find Good and Keywords and u can also check how many competitors on the Google.com

[Mark_A]

I used to use wordtracker.

I liked wordtracker.

Now I mainly use the Google keyword took / adwords.

[scraptoft]

I too used to use wordtracker. I now use Google Adwords.

However, an element of common sense needs to be applied as some of the results are skewed - but after a few seconds of head scratching it's quite easy to understand why.

Just don't accept the data like it's stone cold accurate (I guess this goes for all keyword tools..)

[Mark_A]

I do take adwords exposures with a pinch of salt. After all it is google that decides when to expose an ad, it does not automatically happen every time the key term is used in a search.

[Jayan]

I will always use Google Adwords Keyword tool and I wil suggest you to use it.

[Alan_Mater]

I have used Micro Niche Finder for more than 9 months and have grown to love it so much. I rely so much on it for all my keyword research for all my micro niche sites and my blog postings. Doing proper keyword research plays an important part of how well you are going to rank and most importantly knowing your competition.

[Bangaram]

I strongly suggest you to use the google keyword tool
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[Receptional Andy]

For me, the tool itself is of slight importance - I can happily process data in any number of ways. The important thing is how good the data source is for the purpose you intend to use it for.

I'd say for the overwhelming majority of usage scenarios, the Google tool is likely to offer the best combination of dataset/cost. If you want absolutely reliable data you need to either advertise or have a site that ranks.

The overwhelming majority of other tools do not have access to a reliable dataset. They are scaling data from a small number of users, or processing someone else's data in interesting ways. There's nothing wrong with that, but as I said, I prefer to process good data myself, than potentially rely on data that has been processed in ways that could be undesirable.

[davidfly]

i find them as u

[Sierra_Dad]

So with all these votes for Google Keyword tool. . .

Is there a reason to use tools like WordTracker and Keyword Discovery anymore?

These tools and others take monthly subscriptions. The fee for them isn't much if you get use out of them.

Do they give more or better data than Google Keyword tool?

Is the Google Keyword tool only going to show words that already have ads?

Thanks

[Robert Charlton]

Is there a reason to use tools like WordTracker and Keyword Discovery anymore?

Here's a thread from about a year ago on which I compare the various tools. Essentially, the situation is still the same....

Would you please suggest some useful keywords tools?
http://www.webmasterworld.com/keyword/3887036.htm
[webmasterworld.com...]

Google has been fuzzing its tool data in ways that IMO have made it harder to use for SEO purposes, but it's still by far the best of the free tools out there.

There's a free Trellian Keyword Discovery tool that I think can be very useful as a check against the Google Tool. It doesn't give monthly numbers, but it does give numbers accumulated over time, and its search information is often granular enough to be helpful. It's a distant second to the Google Tool. I often use Google and KWD together.

WordTracker, IMO, still has too small a database to be truly useful, and I haven't looked at it in a long time. From what I remember of it, I'd love to see the WT interface with Google data... though I feel that some Wordtracker "features", like the KEI, eg, are simplistic.

[Sierra_Dad]

Thanks, that is helpful stuff.

From how I see it:

Google has all the data we could possibly want, but may not want to share it all with us mere mortals, or may filter in ways we cannot control.

So according to your post, the broad match is good finding PPC keywords, but you'd want to use something else (exact match?) for finding organic keywords.

The other paid software may not have enough data, but in some cases may have more helpful tools.

The Adwords data wouldn't necessarily be free, because I would probably want to use the API.

I was close to signing up for a year of WordTracker but now I am thinking maybe not.

Re: Keyword difficulty.
From what I've seen, all tools seem to use pretty simplistic measurement. Is "number of search results" the best the industry has?

To me, is a keyword going to be easier because it has 224,000 results instead of 3,645,000 results in Google? I'm not sure. That really depends on what's in the top ten.

[Robert Charlton]

Sierra_Dad - Good overview.

Re keyword difficulty and desirability, that's one of the most important things in SEO you'll need to gauge. No point going for unobtainable keywords, nor for keywords that aren't searched. You need to evaluate your competition and figure out why the top 10-20 sites are ranking.

You also of course want to make sure the target phrases are searched. Check in Google Trends as well as in the keyword tool.

Think hard about whether what you're going after is too general or too specific. General terms often get a lot of searches, but are very hard to rank on, and they're often too vague to convert.

Specific phrases are more likely to convert, often easier to rank on, but they're not searched as often.

Here are the kinds of things I look at initially, as quick indicators of how competitive the phrases are...

- though default searches will be all-the-word searches, to get a sense of how SEOed the area is, look at the number exact matches returned for your target phrase (ie, search it in quotes), and also try allintitle and allinanchor.

- how many of the top 10 results are for inner pages vs for home pages? SERPs showing all home pages indicate competitive searches.

- how many of the top 10 have keyword domains or company names?

- how many of the top 10 are 800-lb gorillas? If they're all unbeatable, don't go there.

- look at the quality of the pages that are ranking. That will be one indication of how the pages got their inbound links.

- look at the AdWords competition and AdWords cost on the Google Keywords Tool

- and look at competitive inbound links, using Yahoo's Site Explorer or the Majestic database, etc.

[jedz]

We've been using Google keywords and keywords tracker.
Our Writers find it more reliable to use.

[htdawg]

in regards to googles keyword tool, i find that is great for finding "in between" keyword phrases for example location hotels and it shows me additional other phrases related to my website but what about the order of words of the keyword phrase? (permutations) I found a tool that says for this phrase the most popular is hotels location & not location hotels. but when i look at some of our website stats even though they may rank for the same phrase both ways (somtimes same position) I see that the suggested phrase order has less searches.

anyone have any info on that?

[Marta]

Please forgive me if I am not in the correct thread for this question.

When I use my company name to search for keywords using Google Keyword Tool I get as a result my company name. When I searched using my competitor's name I get 300 great keywords. They are certainly a larger company than I am but is that the only reason?

[Sierra_Dad]

When I use my company name to search for keywords using Google Keyword Tool I get as a result my company name. When I searched using my competitor's name I get 300 great keywords. They are certainly a larger company than I am but is that the only reason?

I'm guessing that, as a larger company, they or affiliates have spent money on Adwords. Therefore all the great related keywords that they have painstakingly researched and used are available to you. You can thank Google and that larger company for saving you lots of research time.

[Marta]

This is the odd thing, I have been doing adwords for years and use the same words, yet they don't appear when I type in my company name. Somehow the other company's name is associated with the topic but mine is not. I have been in business for 13 years, longer than the bigger company and yet Google sees them as a match for the keywords and not us. Disturbing :(

[shoppertrip]

i think google adwords is enough~

[BitShift]

I'm starting a new blog and beginning my keyword research. After discovering the importance of keyword research the hard way on a previous website, I have also been crawling all over looking/reading for and about keyword tools etc.

Is it just me or do some of the long tail keywords just not show up as much in the google keyword tool results?

[razvan1958]

I use Google AdWords Keyword Tool and is very good.I recomand you.

[360Seo]

Market Samurai

Great tool, one time cost.

[Robert Charlton]

Note that in this discussion in the Google SEO forum, it's mentioned that Google has clarified what it's reporting, and that the new tool is better reflecting data from Google.com or Google.cc.tld...

Google Keyword tool - Showing very inaccurate data
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4200253.htm [webmasterworld.com]

From Google...

...the previous version of the Keyword Tool provides search statistics based on Google.com search traffic AND traffic from search partners, while the updated version of the Keyword Tool provides search statistics based on Google.com traffic only.

So there is less "fuzzing" of data than before... certainly a better indication of the monthly search volume you might expect on Google itself.

[Web_Savvy]

On a lighter, nostalgic note:

Whatever happened to good ol' 'brainstorming'? :-)

On a serious note, I wonder what is the status of the Overture (Yahoo) keyword tool? I think the last that I used it was some years ago. Is it still around or what?

[leafgreen]

What about Wordstream? Any comments on it?