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8:52 pm on Jan 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Microsoft has made the first Release Candidate for IE8 available for download [microsoft.com]. Enjoy!
9:01 pm on Jan 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

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The new "accelerators" look pretty interesting. short video [microsoft.com]
9:35 pm on Jan 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Yada yada

I just want to know whether it's safe

10:04 pm on Jan 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

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...whether it's safe, and can render CSS properly. :)
12:23 am on Jan 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Get your <!--[if IE 8]> ready ;)
1:39 am on Jan 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Microsoft says
Website crashes are now isolated to individual tabs rather than entire browser windows

Speaking as a programmer, I'm very interested to know how that has been achieved. To the best of my knowledge, multiple processes cannot share a parent window! Either MS speaks with fork tongue or some serious hacks have been implemented.

I clicked the link that reads Learn more about Compatibility View but it seems to go the IE8 download page with the title "Get Internet Explorer 7" - am I missing something?

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2:19 am on Jan 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Kaled,

Google Chrome does the same thing.... crashes are isolated to tabs.

5:08 am on Jan 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Get your <!--[if IE 8]> ready ;)

I know this is vile heresy, but it actually looks and works better than Firefox 3+ on most sites...

And of course it is a huge upgrade from IE6 and IE7.

And yes, the tabs crash thing does work - in fact it even attempts to restore the tab (so far always successfully).

One issue that I have run into on a few sites - which is NOT an IE or MS problem, is that some sites used hacks or bad criteria - I have seen two sites so far that insisted I need to upgrade to IE7...

So far I have seen no problems, but after only a day or so that is probably not a good test. But it does seem like the issues of not handling some javascript and a few other things are all fixed now.

It still does not score as high as Firefox on the acid3 test (which no browser passes 100%) [acid3.acidtests.org...] I don't recall for sure, but I think that IE6 got a 0/100, IE7 got a 6/100.

[edited by: Wlauzon at 5:15 am (utc) on Jan. 27, 2009]

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i'v downloaded and insstalled and used IE8 it's a bid better than the ie7.
but it does not support background imageg for tables
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Is there any difference at all between IE7 and IE8 in terms of the UI? Or are all changes elsewhere?

I looked over screenshots of IE8 tonight and came away in no rush to upgrade. I stopped using Internet Explorer both due to loving Firefox and due to the UI of IE7. Right now I hate the UI of IE 7, and thus only use it to check web pages or for sites that stupidly require it. After seeing the screenshots for IE8, the UI doesn't seem changed whatsoever.

12:25 pm on Jan 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I was horrified when I read about this download because the beta I just recently deleted was a disaster and was replaced an hour later by IE7.

Thankfully I am very pleased with IE8 RC1.

There is very little difference in the UI but it does seem to render pages much quicker.

[edited by: Visit_Thailand at 12:26 pm (utc) on Jan. 27, 2009]

12:31 pm on Jan 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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My personal annoyance is that the partial support IE7 had for the <canvas> element has been dropped in IE8. So much for progress...

But I like the web slices, have already made some on my own sites.

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If your site isnt quite ready for IE8 you can use this meta tag to force it to use IE7s rendering engine.

<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=7" />

3:50 pm on Jan 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Nice one badgering; that might prove vital for some larger sites.

Chrome does an even better job at acid3 by the way (79/100)

5:32 pm on Jan 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

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IE8 seems to have a problem with some forms, not sure why yet.

On one of our sites, there is a text editor and a couple of the blank fields I simply cannot get IE8 to work so that I can type info into those fields. Works fine in FF and even IE7, but IE8 in or out of compat mode does not work.

They are php generated pages, not sure if that is maybe why or not.

At this point, though it is a vast step up from previous IE, it still has a few issues.

As far as FF, I love it as a browser, I don't like the top layout setup (FF 2.x was better imo).

[edited by: Wlauzon at 5:34 pm (utc) on Jan. 27, 2009]

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MS haters beware this thing rocks!

Bargepole dude probably has Chrome as his default browser.
That is one browser that deserves to be thrown in the river.

Wlauzon: IE8 is very strict, make sure you fix any errors using W3C validation, solved my problems.

Also be sure to get IE7 Pro from download dot com.
It has many of the plug ins we love for FF. Spend a little time getting to personalize.
FAST IS GOOD!

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Just installed on my XP machines.
If you use any network tweaks do them over.
DSL reports has an excellent tutorial.
[dslreports.com...]
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As reported on El Reg [theregister.co.uk...]
the IE8 protections for clickjacking are (as often found) different than Mozilla...
12:19 am on Jan 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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*** IE8 is very strict, make sure you fix any errors using W3C validation ***

Really?

I just had a "drink splattered on monitor moment" there.

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Wlauzon: IE8 is very strict, make sure you fix any errors using W3C validation, solved my problems.

Actually it is not a validation issue with code, it is an issue with some of the freebie WYSIWYG php code editors. At least one has confirmed that it is not an IE8 bug, but a bug in the editor.. maybe. It may also be an issue with dynamically generated iframes.

Not that I really need it, it was just a lot more convenient at times to fire up that little on-site thingy for a minor adjustment than to use EW2.

[edited by: Wlauzon at 5:59 am (utc) on Jan. 28, 2009]

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Bargepole dude probably has Chrome as his default browser.
That is one browser that deserves to be thrown in the river.

Why?

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My latest download of IE8 crashes on Google Analytics, of all things. Is it just me?
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Bargepole dude probably has Chrome as his default browser.
That is one browser that deserves to be thrown in the river.
Nice of you to provide such a detailed opinion. Care to elaborate?
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This thread is about IE 8 - so let's not wander too far afield. There is an active thread about the Chrome browser [youtube.com].

I have not been an IE fan for a decade or nore - but my sense is that this new version is going to bring a huge change when it finally gets into the forced update stage. I hope I like the changes.

11:55 pm on Jan 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

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After just a few days of this RC1 I am very pleased. The new source view is impressive if just a small change. But overall it just seems much quicker than ie7.

I am surprised that more have not downloaded and posted their thoughts.

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I've put a little time into playing with this (firmly Firefox and Netscape prior to that addict) and have to admit it runs very nice on my x64 XP. Haven't hit a site that crashes a tab yet so can't report in that regard. Rendering is quick...then again everything is quick on this new computer and the difference between half an eyeblink and a quarter an eyeblink is a bit too subjective. My CSS is dirt simple so no worries there!

Just hope that the WORLD will upgrade to at least ie7 so we can get on with things. :)

7:17 am on Jan 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I'm using IE8 in the new version of Windows 7. It's not bad actually.

What's the RC1 version number? I'm wondering whether I'm using the same one.

7:45 am on Jan 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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bill the version number is: 8.0.6001.18372
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hmmm...
The version of IE8 supplied with the Windows 7 beta is 8.0.7000.0
I wonder if there are any major differences.
9:37 am on Jan 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It says something when Firefox crashes more than IE does, but for me at least that is true with RC1.
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