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rowtc2

9:06 pm on Jan 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I have a main page A with 5 main categories. I use H1 tag for my website title displayed on main page and on these 5 main categories. On a second page B i have the 10 subcategories for each main category,
1.For subcategories on B page should i use H2 tag or H1 too(because it is a new page)?
2.Except page A ,i can use H1 in other pages on my site,for important titles,for example?
3.It is ok to use H1 for title and for 5 main categories too?

Regards .

Quadrille

9:59 pm on Jan 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

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H1 ids for page titles; normally you'd have one on EACH page.

Sections would then be H2; if they were subdivided, you'd use H3, etc.

It's all very logical, but it's about PAGE design, not SITE design.

g1smd

12:12 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Use the show outline option at [validator.w3.org...] to see your document structure as indicated by your heading tags.

rowtc2

6:43 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I mean how is good for SEO? I make the design with CSS it is not a problem.

tedster

8:17 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Having one H1 tag per page is a good practice -- it gives search engines another "signal" to use in determining what searches are relevant for your page's topic. It's not a magic SEO button or anything, but it is helpful. Over time, various search engines will weigh the H1's value differently, according to their current tests on how much they can trust it.

The value of the H1 is in that it gives your document a structure. HTML is based on the idea that you begin with a document. Then you use mark-up to share it over the web, with the mark-up highlighting how the parts of the document relate to each other. HTML is not based in the concepts of a visual layout program - and this is where many people seem to get their thinking skewed a bit. I explored this idea in a post several years ago.

[webmasterworld.com...]

So use the H1 as the valuable mark-up it is, for the sake of having a clear structure in your document. It can help with SEO, and even more, it can help you compose better html documents altogether.

Quadrille

9:17 pm on Jan 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

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... But if you abuse the H1 tag, it can be very bad for SEO; do follow the guidelines and use it appropriately

rowtc2

10:42 pm on Jan 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Tks tedster,i understand your point.I have the website like this:

main page A
category red
category blue

page B
subcategory 1 of red
subcategory 2 of red
subcategory 3 of red

page C
subcategory 1 of blue
subcategory 2 of blue
subcategory 3 of blue

First variant:
main page A
category <H1> red </H1>
category <H1> blue </H1>
with no other h2,h3 of remaining important keywords on that page

page B
subcategory <H2> 1 </H2> of red
subcategory <H2> 2 </H2> of red
subcategory <H2> 3 </H2> of red
with no other h1 on that page,but with h3,h4 if is necesary

page C
subcategory <H2> 1 </H2> of blue
subcategory <H2> 2 </H2> of blue
subcategory <H2> 3 </H2> of blue
with no other h1 on that page,but with h3,h4 if is necesary

Second variant:
main page A
category <H1> red </H1>
category <H1> blue </H1>
with h2,h3 of remaining important keywords on that page

page B
subcategory <H1> 1 </H1> of red
subcategory <H1> 2 </H1>of red
subcategory <H1> 3 </H1>of red
with h2,h3 of remaining important keywords on that page

page C
subcategory <H1> 1 </H1>of blue
subcategory <H1> 2 </H1>of blue
subcategory <H1> 3 </H1>of blue
with h2,h3 of remaining important keywords on that page

First variant it looks OK if we see the entire site like a single page(in this way the site is good understanding for blind peoples).
Second variant it looks OK if we see the site composed by a lot of pages,every page with his high importance for users.

What variant it is good? You think the second?
Quadrille , you think this examples can be interpreted as abusig H tags? How do you do for this examples?
Any other suggestion will be appreciated(i have thinked H tags are a simple job,but now i am in a dilema,for an website with 5 main categories,each with 29-25 subcategories :)

Quadrille

11:16 am on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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I think you've missed the point of the advice above.

From what you've given, the correct use of H tags would be:

Second variant:
main page A
<H1>Page Title (eg Widgets)<H1>
category <H2> red </H2>
category <H2> blue </H2>
Use H3 for paragraph headings within subcategories

page B
<H1>Page Title (eg Red Widgets)<H1>
subcategory <H2> 1 </H2> of red
subcategory <H2> 2 </H2>of red
subcategory <H2> 3 </H2>of red
Use H3 for paragraph headings within subcategories

page C
<H1>Page Title (eg Blue Widgets)<H1>
subcategory <H2> 1 </H2>of blue
subcategory <H2> 2 </H2>of blue
subcategory <H2> 3 </H2>of blue
Use H3 for paragraph headings within subcategories

Never, ever use Hx tags simply to highlight keywords; that is search engine spam, and is depracated.

It is also an inappropriate use of page layout tags.

Please be clear, Hx tags are for page markup, NOT site - each and every page can have an H1 title, which helps to head the page, and may assist in SEO.

You DO NOT need more than one H1 title on one page; you have five more to use, use them.

for example:You may have one title (H1), four categories(H2), each of which has 3 subcategories(h3). Each subcategory is divided into 4 sections (H4), and most of them have two subsections(H5). Within them, you may like to highlight some paragraph headings (H6).

<H1>
- - <H2>
- - - - - <H3>
- - - - - - - - <H4>
- - - - - - - - - - - <H5>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - <H5>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - <H4>
- - - - - - - - - - - <H5>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - <H5>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - <H4>
- - - - - - - - - - - <H5>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - <H5>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - <H4>
- - - - - - - - - - - <H5>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - <H5>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - <H2>
- - - - - <H3>
- - - - - - - - <H4>
- - - - - - - - - - - <H5>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - <H6>

etc., etc.

It's entirely logical, very easy, and - if done right - may aford a very small SEO benefit (it is one of some 200 factors considered by Google.

If done badly, it will confuse your visitors, exclude visitors with visual difficulties, and quite possibly damage your search engine standings - especially if you have rivals who might report you.

Plus if you get it right, you will have a better looking site that you can be proud of :)

[edited by: Quadrille at 11:32 am (utc) on Jan. 17, 2007]

rowtc2

5:14 pm on Jan 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

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It is very clearly for me now. Thank you!

g1smd

1:21 pm on Jan 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Use the show outline option at [validator.w3.org...] to see your document structure as indicated by your heading tags.

sarawut2478

7:37 am on Jan 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

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use H1 and Bold tag for high ranking .
H2,H3 .... <-- Not need (low point for seo)

Quadrille

9:59 am on Jan 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

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No.

Use good page design, with appropriate markup for high ranking.

Abuse tags and markup and you'll likely get reported by a competitor (they're good at that).

Plus your visitors will never become your customers.

Bold? You're joking, right?