Our site is dominant in Google for major keywords, but does not show up in queries with ChatGPT or Gemini? What can cause that?
ronin
9:41 pm on Jan 6, 2025 (gmt 0)
Purely speculating here, but why not see what happens when you put keywords / keyphrases to one side temporarily and ask ChatGPT and Gemini questions about your website (explicitly) and about the content included on particular individual pages on your website.
not2easy
9:47 pm on Jan 6, 2025 (gmt 0)
I agree with ronin oh that. Keywords aren't what are used to train AI, phrases and content relative to your site's content would be more likely to show you your results. AI wants to answer questions, not do research.
Gonzo_L
10:52 pm on Mar 1, 2025 (gmt 0)
It's hard to know without seeing the specific queries. I'm assuming other sites or brands do appear in the response, just not yours.
Maybe it's that your content didn't make it to the training data or was filtered out before training. Are you on common crawl? what is your robots.txt blocking? is your site renering content on the browser?
Whitey
6:25 am on Mar 11, 2025 (gmt 0)
I agree with the above responses.
Your site may dominate Google but isn't surfaced in AI models because they rely on different training data. If you're not in Common Crawl or have restrictive **robots.txt** rules, AI models may have never seen your content. Also, AI answers questions conversationally, prioritizing contextual relevance over keyword matching. Check your site's accessibility to crawlers and experiment with **question-based content** for better AI visibility.
engine
9:38 am on Mar 12, 2025 (gmt 0)
Check your server stats to see if you're being crawled by the relevant service.
Leaving AI crawlers to pull data from Bing and Google can be a smart way to conserve server resources and manage costs, especially for large sites.
Since OpenAI and Gemini already source content via search engines, direct crawling might be redundant.
However, if AI-generated traffic is valuable, allowing direct access can help ensure models retrieve your most relevant and updated content. The best approach depends on tracking AI-driven referrals and testing if direct crawling improves visibility and conversions. If AI traffic doesn’t convert, restricting crawlers can free up resources without losing reach.
Brett_Tabke
1:30 pm on Sep 17, 2025 (gmt 0)
I would be interested to hear how you are fairing this many months later. Site showing up in some ChatGPT prompts/searches?
Rlilly
8:14 pm on Sep 19, 2025 (gmt 0)
Yes it is starting to show sporadically for keyword searches. However, ChatGPT does not deliver the same results for the same query every time. It can really differ on occasions. For pages where I target long tail sentences: "buy abc for a xyz", the site is doing well in ChatGPT.
I think ChatGPT grabs info from Ads at the top of the SERPS for its results, so that could possibly effect why we dont come up for our strong keywords in Google organic results .
Brett_Tabke
9:33 pm on Oct 1, 2025 (gmt 0)
Oh, ChatGPT is not using Google in any meaningful way. There is one and only one known condition that ChatGPT will "search" google that is:
1) there is no info on the query in its llm, 2) no info in their common crawl database 3) there is no info in Bing api call
Then - and only then - do they send out an "Agent" to grab a Google serp via third party.
It is only a search of last resort. You can not construct a query for ChatGPT and get it to produce a Google result, if there are results for the same query in Bing.
