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I am talking about traffic of nearly 7 k from google everyday and hence its a sizable decrease.
Looking for early answers on how we could check the things
Interesting....did you do this after this update and how long before you saw results?
Thanks
Could this have triggered a link based dupe content type filter?
Also one competitor has 20 almost the same sites. He is rocking hard. I checked his hosts some were different. So the spam filter won't see it. Every site is indexed with 2000+ pages. I am considering also doing this, because google doesn't give me an answer. I think they can't detect this kind of spam, otherwise they would have removed him from the index.
they really are bad, absolutely the worst type of spam at the top. Seems to be low pr single page type of spam. See this on yahoo alot.
They get rid of the half decent professional spam, but they cant get rid of the single page awful spam which takes it's place.
I have been making my site "less efficient" let's say... like taking out some of the image alt's and such and my ratings are going up. odd, becauase they were not spammy.
ALL? Not even one H1 tage for page?
You aren't concerned that is is an overly broad statement?
Hx tags are critically important in very competitive areas, and also in less competitive areas that happen to have tons of results (like for some hotel in Peoria).
This would make it appear as though pages with hx tags were affected more than those without. It doesn't mean that h1 tags will rank lower. The ones without a h1 tag were most likely lower in the first place (they just have not decreased).
my next step is to remove all <h> tags
is anyone else going back from *.html to *.txt?
:-)
is anyone else going back from *.html to *.txt?
everyone is so quick to shoot an idea down. Considering many people have lost a significant amount of their income this month, I hardly take this sarcasm in good humor.
That said.
If google did research and found that 90% of H1 tags are spammy pages, then they could penalise the use of a h1 tag.
Google is under no obligation to stick by any standards. They will do whatever is best for the end user.
1) Hyphenated URL: <a href="green-furry-gerbils.html">
2) Anchor: Green Furry Gerbils
3) H1: <h1>Green Furry Gerbils</h1>
I seriously doubt it is just H1 .. but along with devalued internal links this could be very easy to spot algorithmically.
How many sites in your vertical / segment have the same combination?
When someone postulates an idea that runs counter to facts demonstrated via literally hundreds of thousands of sites, it is a sensible response to say it is a bad idea.
Better to examine the root of a situation rather than focus on branches that likely reveal nothing. Hx tags are critially important in getting rankings for targeted pages involving obscure and multiword search phrases. They help identify the content and nature of a page when there aren't more extensive signals available.
In other words, Hx is a great help when you don't have many/any anchor text links to pages. When there are multiple links to pages though, that text overwhelms Hx text. Some people seem to be only focused on one search term on one page, their main page. In this context Hx is a minor player. Good to have, but dwarfed by linking and anchor text. If your domain page has a problem, blaming Hx text is like blaming your shoelaces for how much you weigh. If you are having major problems, look at the major factors in ranking... links, anchor text, bad neighborhoods, even PR. And then, start optimizing your whole domain by having accurate targeted Hx text on your subpages so that you get good rankings for a wide variety of terms that you would never think to make a bunch of anchor text links for.
Just plainly blaming everythign on Hx tags is being too harsh. Just becos a couple of sites here and there have lost its serps and the fact that they had Hx tags included, doesnt make Hx tags the culprit.
There has to be more than that surely.
Cheers
Copper
When someone postulates an idea that runs counter to facts demonstrated via literally hundreds of thousands of sites, it is a sensible response to say it is a bad idea.
I totally agree. The idea is to tell someone that you disagree, and what evidence you have seen to say to why.
Not spit out degrading sarcasm that doesn't help anyone.
Just plainly blaming everythign on Hx tags is being too harsh. Just becos a couple of sites here and there have lost its serps and the fact that they had Hx tags included, doesnt make Hx tags the culprit.
i don't think anyone was blaming one element. Just saying they would test different elements.
I agree the the h1 is very unlike to be penalised. It is however very possible that the weighting given to this element has been reduced.
Out of all my sites, one theme is common in this latest change....size. All of my 'big' sites where clobbered and they weren't spammy, and did pass the 'would a user bookmark this site' test, however the common theme was lots of Aff network links.
Thoughts?
Phil
Three websites; two stronger than ever after this update and another weakening considerably on internal page listings.
Similar "techniques" and structuring used across all sites which disproves many theories.
The site affected was our oldest, most established site with the most links and a PR6.
