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I am talking about traffic of nearly 7 k from google everyday and hence its a sizable decrease.
Looking for early answers on how we could check the things
Perhaps, by coincidence at around about the same time, one of the widely distributed parasitic toolbars updated itself to divert google toolbar/search traffic elsewhere?
once more can someone round up
whats the main points?
Whats happening?
- most important how do we fix?
I have a few websites all are ranked high... not seen any backlink changes uk.
All my sites are fine apart from 1 it has only 2 or 3 pages, and the site is up high in search engines because of links... has a loss of 60% traffic and down pages in the serps
Now the other websites are on the same topic but are fine but the difference if that the rest of my sites have lots of real content! - so is it something to do with the incomming links? i have looked and they are the same...
Seldom has a business entity ever done anything so completely worthless.
I also have a very stable site, I had no problems for the last 1-2 years, but here the last 4-5 days it went from 32000 unique visits to 23000, so thats a change that has nothing to do with the normal flux there HAS been a change in algo or somthing and now the link update, so something has happen.
By the way links has increased the last to times, but I see alot of database sites other SE, like I site crap links to my site.
zeus
Googlebot just visited at 7:48 am after an absence of 5 days
BTW, to get a sneak peek at future PR, you can take a look at the Google directory if you're listed in it.
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A new Internet advertising forecast shows slower growth for paid search listings in the next 5 years, a projection that raises questions about Web search leader Google's prospects as it goes public.
You are kidding, right? Dynamic DNS for a site that you are depending on for your living?!?
BigDave:
On several sites, I do use eNom's name servers (dns1.name-servers.com, dns2, etc), then change the * (other) and www settings in the DNS zone file, so as to point to the ip where the site(s) are located.
This has worked very well for me for quite a while. I have bacups of each site on another server, so that if the main server goes down, all I have to do is make a quick change in the DNS zone file, and within a few seconds, all incoming traffic is sent to the backup site (which stays offline under normal circumstances).
Please note that I am not an SEO expert (nor have I ever professed to be such). Is there something wrong with using this zone file change process?
Thanks
i doubt alexa plays much of a role in google. it's precisely because people like you think that they have to manipulate alexa, and they can do it easily. concentrate on non-fraudulent ways to increase your google traffic, such as getting inbound links, and you will be spending your time much more productively.
as a data point that may be worth something or not, googlebot is going NUTS on my site after an overnight increase of 68% in the number of backlinks showing (i reported a lower percentage earlier because i was using the wrong baseline). it is only 10 a.m., but i have already had 20,000 googlebot page views today. that's definitely a record. now if i can just get back some of my google traffic lost in the last week ...
These 3 are doing QUITE extensive deep crawling. Although I have seen freshbot going deep before, I never have seen it to this extent ...
A pure algo change doesn't explain people seeing increased traffic from Yahoo and MSN.
I'd love to see increased traffic from Yahoo and MSN. My referrals from those two search engines are static at best, while Google referrals continue to grow.
Is it possible that Yahoo and MSN are more responsive to SEO techniques, while Google is better at distinguishing between artificial and "organic" on-page factors and linking patterns?
Now for something else:
A few people here have described my site (see profile) as an "authority" site. If that's an accurate description, I wonder if that has more to do with linking patterns than with the sheer number and quality of banklinks? A couple of thoughts:
1) I don't have an unusually high number of backlinks, but (aside from a few Yahoo and DMOZ listings) most of my backlinks come from information sites rather than affiliate or e-commerce sites. Sites that link to mine run the gamut from magazines to personal Web pages.
2) I have very few reciprocal links; the vast majority of my inbound and outbound links are "organic" (i.e., made for editorial reasons) instead of being the result of link exchanges.
I know this has been discussed in other threads, but it would make a lot of sense for Google to give less weight to reciprocal links (whether inbound or outbound) than to links that represent true "votes" for the target pages. It's also reasonable to assume that, with the passage of time, Google has become smarter at detecting indirect reciprocal linking patterns.
Also, it wouldn't be too hard to imagine Google deciding to give less weight to links from affiliate or e-commerce sites, or from sites that use various SEO techniques, on the theory that such links are statistically less likely to be impartial votes than links from noncommercial and non-SEO'd sites. I'm not talking about penalties; I'm talking about a relatively mild "PageRank adjustment factor" that would help to ensure more organic search results.
Disclaimer: The above is idle speculation, like so many other hypotheses that we read on this forum. :-)
Referrals from Google are growing all the time while yahoo and msn traffic grows nominally at best. I have backlinks from mainly informational sites and a few personal pages. No backlinks from any site of a commercial nature whatsoever, and very few reciprocals at all.
I'd love to see increased traffic from Yahoo and MSN. My referrals from those two search engines are static at best, while Google referrals continue to grow.
Wouldn't that also depend on where you rank on the various engines? Are you tracking that for thousands of terms? If not, I don't see the relevance of anyone talking about the difference between the two engines.
BTW, europe, you run an affiliate site in case you forgot. :)
Wouldn't that also depend on where you rank on the various engines? Are you tracking that for thousands of terms? If not, I don't see the relevance of anyone talking about the difference between the two engines.
The topic of this thread is referrals, not rankings, and my comment was in response to a statement about referrals from MSN and Yahoo in comparison to Google referrals.
BTW, europe, you run an affiliate site in case you forgot. :)
No, I run an editorial site that's supported by advertising and affiliate links. But how I earn my living is a distraction from the topic of this thread.
I think this update has something related to AdSense.
I have several sites with AdSense, but only my first site has dropped(the site I submited to AdSense approval) Does it happened to anyone else?
Why would Google give lower rankings to sites with AdSense ads (or that apply to carry AdSense ads)?
"Also, it wouldn't be too hard to imagine Google deciding to give less weight to links from affiliate or e-commerce sites"
The topic of this thread is referrals, not rankings, and my comment was in response to a statement about referrals from MSN and Yahoo in comparison to Google referrals.
so, as I said, the statement is meaningless in determinging whether or not market share is changing.
1) A 1,000-page site with the word "hotel" and a booking link on every page is likely to be an affiliate site;
2) A 1,000-page site with a shopping-cart link on every page is likely to be an e-commerce site;
3) A 1,000-page site with mostly noncommercial links is likely to be something other than an affiliate or e-commerce site.
Still, it isn't your job or mine to make such determinations; if Google cares to distinguish between links from various types of sites, Google will come up with its own definitions and recognition techniques.
I have been watching one site showing up in the top 10 carrying adsense in one of my sectors..but the way they are achieving this is pure spam...google will eventually catch up with what they are doing...
since when does using adsense guarantee any type of top positions? Does google state in their TOS ... if you use adsense you will rank well?
Actually yes, my site that has fallen is submitted to adsense too. That might explain why my competition has not moved at all.
If you look at your crawling activity for today, and they do a search on this Google server [66.102.9.99] for the specific URL that they just crawled, you'll likely find that it's a URL only listing, meaning it has been dropped from the index.
With a significant drop of pages for your domain, this would mess up your internal backlinks, which would negatively affect your rankings.
for the same reasons any other site may drop or receive a penalty..
spam...questionable inbound/outbound relationships..
Precisely. The sites are getting spanked not because they use AdSense, but because of their questionable content or SEO techniques.
since when does using adsense guarantee any type of top positions? Does google state in their TOS ... if you use adsense you will rank well?
Google has stated that AdSense has no effect on search rankings. (OTOH, the revised AdSense program policies state that participating sites must adhere to the Google Webmaster guidelines, so an AdSense-driven site that uses shady SEO practices can get a double whammy: a Google search penalty plus cancellation of the owner's AdSense account.)
Matches what I'm seeing.
:)May i have license to use this quote for myself, when the occasion arises, EFV?:)
Also my site is one of the least optimized out there, built with Frontpage years ago and maintained with that to this day, nothing out of the ordinary.
What this does mean is any site can be dropped at any time, and that is all I can gather as they did this to old sites, new sites, big sites, small sites, optimized and unoptimized, many backlinks, and few backlinks, important backlinks and obscure backlinks.
Glad to hear the bot is back out there but it never left my site, something else curious. I search and still find all the pages I used to get more Google traffic on, it is still listed just completely devalued. Also my site has been listed on library homepages as a featured site a couple of times, so I'm hardly a spammer.
However as was said we aren't entitled to traffic from any search engine unless we pay, and if they determine we are now junk then what can we do. I think that is the worst part of this, some of us spent years building these sites by hand and they are dropped like a rock out of placement completely.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 5:54 pm (utc) on Aug. 10, 2004]
[edit reason] no specifics please. [/edit]
