Update Brandy Part 2

[GoogleGuy]

Continued from: [webmasterworld.com...]

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steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)

Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.

[Chndru]

>If people don't want to see PDF, .DOC,

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[edited by: Chndru at 5:43 pm (utc) on Feb. 13, 2004]

[flicker]

Where educational searches are concerned, all three SERP's (the one on Google.com, the 216 one, and the 64 one) look good. The spam has been shuffled a bit lower down on the 216 one, so I favor that one personally, but any of the three are returning good (much better than pre-Florida) results for the educational searches I looked at.

Tried an e-commerce search and found a lot more affiliate portal junk near the top of 64 than the other two.

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[andy_boyd]

Good_Vibes,

I'm seeing results that are very similar to those before Florida on phrases I watch closely, there is an improvement for me. However, after all the hassle of the last couple of months I take this with a large pinch of salt ... anything can happen.

[eatapeach]

google has as the #1 and #2 site in my main keyword phrase a totally unrelated blog where someone has linked to another site using the keyword phrase as the anchor text.

this #1 and #2 site has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, no content, nothing.

is this the best 50 phds and billions of dollars can get you nowadays? consider me unimpressed.

[simon03]

I'm back in the top 100 for almost all 9
of my kewords. Hey, it's not #1, but after not being in the top 1000 since November, It's a start!

[JoeyBall]

For some reason my site has lost every keyword its been under for the past 3 weeks, since austin and still.

althought the links pointing to the site have dramtically increased just under a thousand.

I would have thought it would come back afther the next update but i got it wrong.

[nutsandbolts]

Caveman Wrote: I'm not sure about the 'age' piece; the number of pages and number of backlinks is nothing new. What is new, or perhaps still the case since Florida/Austin only more stringent, is that if you don't clear some hurdle(s), your pages are *nowhere* to be found, rather than just further down in the pile.

Nice theory - I kind of agree with that. One of my sites has gone, another has returned from it's 2 month holiday in limboland. What a strange update this is!

[Hissingsid]

I'm seeing results that are very similar to those before Florida on phrases I watch closely, there is an improvement for me.

In my niche what I'm seeing is not pre Florida. It is Austin with those sites that were dropped at Florida for no logical reason returned to what is the right rank. What has now dropped out is autogenerated directory crap. The good sites that came up at Florida, OK I admit there were a couple! Seem to have stuck.

It looks like the dream ticket to me!

Best wishes

Sid

[Trisha]

I have to agree with mquarles:

I know there's no going back, but I feel a bit like a guy who's been out in the desert for 2 days with no food or water being offered a glass of cloudy water.
Back in the safety of my office, I would never have touched such water. Now, like most everyone else, I'm thankful because it's a lot better than no water.

The 64.**** IP's look pretty good to me, not quite the same as pre-Florida though. But much better than it has been. The 216.**** IP looks like I'm back in the desert again. I hope that is not the one that sticks, from what people are saying that seems to be the case. Right now I'm thankful for the cloudy water.

[squared]

I liked Austin more.

There seems to be more commercial sites with less informational value popping up in my territory.

-squared

[wkitty42]

steveb: Who were Crazy Janie and the Chicken Man?

Your search - "crazy janie" "chicken man" - did not match any documents.

[Essex_boy]

Please, please, please let it be a rollback under cover of an update. Please, please, please Ill even start having bath more than once a year.

Oh please let it be true

[1milehgh80210]

For my sites -and some unrelated searches, 64.**** results look much better. Less (why is that site here? results.
...if you dont like them though, just wait a few weeks-things are sure to be completely different!

Monty python SE-"and now for something completely different!"

[edited by: 1milehgh80210 at 6:08 pm (utc) on Feb. 13, 2004]

[janejanejane]

>>> I'm seeing results that are very similar to those before Florida <<<

Since Florida, despair, dread, and the abyss of insomnia have been my constant companions.

I would not call these Pre-Florida results; the algos and filters have certainly evolved. I will say that I am breathing easier and do see an overall improvement (in both selfish and objective terms). - Jane

[Powdork]

It appears that there are not two different dials, ie one for spam and one for relevance that can be tuned independently. Instead there is one dial and at one end lie the informational sites and at the other lie the commercial sites. On the side of the commercial sites you will find more spam as well as heavily seo'd sites (not necessarily the same). On the side of the educational sites you will find quality information in the articles and whatnot, but also lots of weird internal stuff about library bookshelf placement, etc. It seems as though G would like to favor the information type sites but have realized they can only do that at the expense of relevance, because there is only one dial and relevance is more likely to be found on the commercial end of it. The relevance is often found on the commercial end because not all competition to do well in the serps is a bad thing. When the competition involves working harder to provide what the user is looking for, or present it in a better way for the user, then the commercial area can provide a better user experience. We all know this is not always the case especially in categories like weight loss, etc. But I think the playing field is certainly a bit more level now. For my particular area, there are some sites on 64.xx that are not of the quality that existed during the hardships of Florida and Austin. But they are more on target and probably provide a better user experience, given the query. Additionally, when you search for different things outside my kwarea, but within my location, you are getting the sites that relate to the kw, rather than the same 5 location-mega sites regardless of the kw. Those large sites are still there, but they are not overpowering.