Update Brandy Part 2

[GoogleGuy]

Continued from: [webmasterworld.com...]

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steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)

Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.

[GoogleGuy]

Hey, I went to see a movie. Looks like I missed about 50 posts about 64 vs. 216. :) Here's what things look like from my perspective. We have our own internal names for data centers, and I know the data center that has the latest changes. When I ping that data center, it has an IP of 64.233.161.x. So I'm reasonably confident that 64 is what people will be seeing by around Monday or so. Personally, I'd take tomorrow off, spend the weekend with your sweetie, and not sweat data center differences right now. When someone visits www.google.com, they can hit a different data center based on (for example) DNS rotation, so different people will see different results from different data centers this weekend.

Frankly, I don't even know what data center 216 is. I'll drop an email to someone to ask about it and see who I can catch tomorra. Is good, yah?

For the people who are a little newer to WebmasterWorld: I do work at Google. I try to stop by, answer questions, and dispel misconceptions. Normally I can give pretty good answers or at least find the right person to ask. But I just speak for myself personally. I'm not some spokesperson or anything like that, but I try to do the best I can to help out with questions.

Has anyone seen Lost in Tranlation? Not too shabby of a movie. Pretty good music, I thought..

[Edouard_H]

64 would suit me fine ;) as a user as well as a webmaster - fewer of those crapola directories on some of my benchmark terms.

Hope Bill Murray gets the oscar...

[allanp73]

GoogleGuy,

Thank you for easing our concerns. It's possibility #2. This is good news. I hope the people at Google realize the chaos they created with the last two updates. My piece of advice for Google is please do this type of new algo testing offline it would make a lot of people lives happier.

[flobaby]

GG,
Thanks for the explanation, but more importantly, thanks for taking the time you do to communicate with us. When I started coming to this board, I was absolutely floored that an actual person from Google would openly give news, answer questions and help!

So, thanks again for the info on 64, it's 3AM and I need to sleep but with so much drama... You've successfully pacified me, for the night at least.

And yes, great flick.

[Beachboy]

GG - I bet Lost in Translation will be ignored at the Oscars. But if you want to see the winner for Best Actress, go see Monster, with Charlize Theron. Rough movie but a beyond-outstanding performance.

I'm still seeing Austin here but I'll take your advice and not stress out this weekend. :)

[Sandybay1]

GG

Thanks from Germany (Munich), 64**** has really the better Serps.

Sandy

[GoogleGuy]

Haven't seen it yet, Beachboy, but sounds like a good film.

Okay, I just talked to somebody else at Google. [Q: Why are Google people up after midnight on Valentine's Day? A: We (heart) search.] Sounds like 64.x.x.x is indeed the wave of the future. They did say that it may roll out over several days instead of being done over the weekend though. These folks know our production load, so I trust their judgment on that. If anything changes, I'll let you know. But for the time being, I would just check a couple queries on 64.x.x.x, see if you like it, and then go spend some quality time with your family, your pets, your GameCube/PS2/XBox, or a favorite book. Or all of the above. :)

I'm heading to bed, but I'll check in again tomorrow and let people know if there's anything else they need to know.

GoogleGuy's last tip o' the night. Click up on "control panel" up on the top of the page. Click on System Preferences. Change Messages per thread to 75 and click submit. Ahhh, a much nicer view of threads with 75 posts on each page. :)

[steveb]

Another [Lost in Translation] SEO song...

"As I walk through this wicked world
Searchin' for light in the darkness of insanity.
I ask myself, is all hope lost?
Is there only pain and hatred and misery?

"And as I walked on through troubled times
My spirit gets so downhearted sometimes...
Cause each time I feel it slippin’ away, just makes me wanna cry:
What's so funny about 64.233.161.99"

[edited by: steveb at 8:58 am (utc) on Feb. 15, 2004]

[maus]

Hi an Good Morning,
I hope so very much that the 64.......... is indeed the wave of the future. If it comes true, I will love to wait some more days.
Hopefully greetings from Bavaria/Germany.
Maus, allways looking for the "stairway to google" :o)

[dazzlindonna]

Thanks GG for being so clear on the matter of the 64.x.x.x rollout. It's nice to not have to read between the lines. Much appreciated.

[Spearmaster]

If what I am seeing is Brandy, then Google needs to drink a few more glasses - the results I see are almost as bad as pre-Florida, with the exception that the worst of "spammers" and "gamers" are missing - there is still way too much junk in there and personally I like what I saw before Brandy as being more relevant.

[Tiebreaker]

Thanks to GG for the info ....

64.233.161.99 is great for me - a vast improvement - but I just checked google.ca and my results are even better still on that!

I'll be happy with either, but if I get the Canada results on google.com - fantastic!

[martinibuster]

As a user I miss the old google and upset that they had to mess with a good thing...

According to the New Yorker magazine, there are four levels of Hell:

• Hot
  
• Medium
  
• Mild
  
• Con queso

Which level of Hell are you in?

GG said it, I believe it, and that settles it: I'm waiting until Monday to take a peek, but I'm not going to consider it done until next Thursday or Friday.

I like Con Queso, myself.

[nuevojefe]

For the most part things seem to be settling on www at least for me here in S.Cal.

GG - thanks for taking the time to take an individual look at that .us super spammer. That has to be one of the most amazing spam acheivements i've seen, (s)he just dominates for that industry.

Now that my new sites in that industry have taken the plunge, i'm not too concerned with him getting banned, there's already enough high quality results now!

...hilltop...

[subway]

If I can revert back to the last real "on topic" and relevant post in this thread which was by makemetop on page 2...

The sky has already fallen - it can't fall any more! This tweak has raised the horizon a bit.

I think given that this is now two days in, the changes have made drastic improvements but are far from perfect. SERPs seem to be more "illogical" now than "irrelevant". There are still lots of unfairly ranked sites absent from page 1,2,3,4 of the SERPS.