Update Brandy Part 2

[GoogleGuy]

Continued from: [webmasterworld.com...]

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steveb, I believe the 64.x.x.x data center has the change, but I'm not positive. We use different terminology inside Google. :)

Powdork, I'm not sure if you'd call it an update exactly (different algorithms play more of a role than different data). But I'm guessing the change will probably roll out over the course of the weekend.

[yvt360]

I am noticing that the 216 results are pretty similar to austin. The 64 results seem to be the best results I have ever seen if you are looking for information on a particular destination, there are relevant local sites showing on 64, on 216 it is more national directory sites that mention our particular area, this is for a search on "town keyword keyword". Our rankings are stong for both as we are a major content site for our area.

[Ledfish]

I've been seeing 216 results on www all evening. If those are the true results, well, time to wake up everybody, the dream is over..

[eyeinthesky]

Google Guy did say that he is "not positive" 64 is the update since they use different terms internally.

Not seeing 64 on www. Only 216.

64 looks too good to be true?

[wifi on the fly]

I would stick with what GoogleGuy did come out and say with the 64 results. The 219. looks like a mix between Austin and Florida and is pretty grim in just general relevent terms.

Have some faith here. Speculation will lead to a mob forming. :)

[Robert123]

google guy did clarify in a later post that it was the 64.**** site. i specifically asked him to and he responded here:
"highman/Robert123, I'm expecting the changes at the 64.233.161.x data center to move to the other data centers over the course of the weekend"

so lets summarize
1. they have been seen on the www today--first time to my knowledge
2. 216 is still more frequent
3. it is only sat. night--
4. the 216 results still differ greatly

[Dumb_guy]

One more update like this and regardless of what I think, Googles days will be numbered.

Our hits are up from as far back as September, yet our ranking in Google has continued to diminish since Florida. How can this be you ask? Obviously the end users are seeking the info elswhere.

I just checked our refering URL's for the last 30 day: MSN is our #1 referrer, where Google use to be.

Now, if our total hit counts had continued to diminish since Florida (like our ranking has), I'd think, so what? But that has not been the case. And if Google is "filtering" things in such a way that don't make "adsense" to the end user, they will no doubt go elsewhere, like I did three years ago when Yahoo started telling me what THEY thought I should be looking at...

Gonna be hard to sell Adsense when nobody is there to click 'em...

[Robert123]

strange observation

the 216 results have revealed something interesting to me--and in my opinion a flaw.

i am on top of the third page for "wiget rentals".
however, my site does not even show in the index..i stopped looking after page 25 for "widget rental"

plural/singular searches should reveal somewhat similar search results..not identical, but at lease somewhat similar?
No?

[Robert123]

216 results seem to favor reciprocal linking too more as well

[howiejs]

Just saw what looks like 64 on www

(I am on the east coast in the U.S.)

[customdy]

I don't think there is any relation to Adwords...
we were killed in both Florida and Austin, and 216 is not looking too much better. We have been paying big bucks for adwords since Florida.

[customdy]

I am also on the East Coast of US but have seen nothing but 216... I think I am wearing out the refresh button

[Crush]

OK you guys in the States go to bed now. It is our shift in Europe. Albeit 7 in the morning central european time. Still same old results here and it looks like it will be another day or 2 before they have migrated so leave that refresh button alone. Thank god I am driving to Poland this morning or I would be wasting my life looking at some google data centre.

[Spica]

64. results showing here in Texas right now too.

Good night!

[sharpie_79]

what's happening with the PR?
i don't see any changes in pr on the toolbar..
eventhough i see more links using the backlinks function...
the backlinks and pr on toolbar don't seem to be insync...

[allanp73]

slyguy is right on google.ca 64 is showing.
I am curious if 64 will stick. I am almost curious about how many variations of the Google index there are. At least we know of two 64 and 216, but there could be others. Has anyone seen other variations?

I like staying these variations. I figured out how to get past the google filter in the past and these variations give valuable imfo on what makes Google tick. As I said before each look like different levels of the same filter being applied to the index. This leads to the following possibilities:
1) Google will use both 64 and 216 and watch to which surfers prefer and benefits to adwords. In this case 64 represents almost pre-florida and 216 represents Austin.
2) Alternatively, they will launch 64 and things will go back to normal. Eventually, the filter will be weakened across the board for major and minor terms. Possibly with a major update in a month's time. Google users will try to forget the last 3 months of chaos.
3) They will launch 216 and the path of filtering out commercial sites will intensify. google will began a new era of searching where directories rule and real content will fade. Sites will have to either pay for adwords or adapt. In this case it could mean the eventual demise of Google.

One thing for sure, no matter what happens we should be very careful about placing our faith in one search engine. The best system is one where no one search engine dominates. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.