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Pre Florida 1.34
Florida 563
Post Florida 8.24
Thank god!
Please let this sitck.
PS -asdfasf to the search and they are again all back pre - florida.
This is what was intended by Google all along and I'm quite sure the original filter was out just to feel the vibs out here. I'll take 6,7,8,9,10,11,.... positions anytime ranther than the 20 page, right next to Orville Redenbacher popcorn factory :)
How do you know that? ;)
Well, I guess stupidity could be one explanation. A more likely one is that the results are not erroneous in the collective mind of Google, these are in fact exactly the types of results they were hoping for, and there will be no rollback.
Of course, I'm a little cynical. Let's hope you're right. :)
To get back to the topic, I have seen no evidence of any significant shift across several different city-specific terms that I follow.
--What I'm seeing -dc:
'mytinytown mystate myproduct' = dancing pg 1-2, last 3 weeks--+1000 results--DEAD
'mynearestbigcity mystate myproduct' = still FL
#1 look at other PPC revenue streams
#2 look more into Froogle
#3 realize that google is not happy with the across the board manipulation of its index.
#4 don't think that google will allow its search engine to passively had money to sites trying to take advantage of there market share online.
#5 or possibly its just a warning for thinks to come
or they wont crack back the nob on the filter and thousands and thousands of online mom and pop shops will die.
If the filter was applied 90% during florida its was shown a few hours ago at around 25% and is now hovering around a 40-50% filter strength.
Checked the SERP in 4 different continents they are all show this data. Anyone else going to pipe up.
The new algorithm is a dramatic improvement over the old. There is no "filter". In two weeks or a month the genuine/quality "lost" sites should regain their approximate previous rankings, while previous trivial/insubstantial and spam-family mini-webs won't be. (Although new trivial and spam sites will appear as fresh continually.)
Those folks who ran off and changed their headers and "de-optimized" will of course pay for their foolishness for a bit longer.
Thanks Google for the positive steps. Death to the anchor text algo. Happy Holidays.
I added 90 pages content 48 hours back, it was indexed 30 hours back and started showing on all DCs.
Now again its gone (the newly added content)from SERP at all DCS.
I wish I could get myself to hope that this will finally put all the filter-ite and adwords-ite and black helicopter theories to bed,Your logic fails me. Its like when chndru says the columbus real estate serps are good. I just don't understand it.
There is certainly more useless spammy junk on -dc but the Florida algo is clearly holding.Some of us may take offense to that.
DMOZ/Google/Yahoo directory pages ranking, if anything, even a bit better.DMOZ=Google Directory=Duplicate Content
Personally, I am excited for myself and our colleagues.:)
Penalty
3. The disadvantage or painful consequences resulting from an action or condition
Our only condition is relevance.
I don't care if you're interested in a vacation there, looking for condos, or just like the taste of Kona coffee. Gone, Gone, Gone.
One more time. It's plainly obvious there is no "filter". Sites are being ranked differently, not filtered.
If sites were being filtered, then the sites *not* being filtered would would be unaffacted, right? That's the point of the word "not", right?
But of course that is not what is happening. One site might be ranked #3 and #9 under the old and new algorithms, and another site might be ranked #8 and #6 under the old and new algorithm. If there was a "filter" the first site would always be above the second.
Then what about the sites that are ranked #30 the old way, and jump up to #2, ahead of both of the above sites? Using the word "filter" is betraying a lack of understanding of what is going on here.
People who fixate on their own sites will never see a bigger picture. Far more sites were not "lost" by the new algorithm. They just shifted around, sometimes dramatically. The addition of some fresh sites now just shifts sites around again.
Florida is an algorithm. Deal with it. It is here to stay until they alter the algorithm again. Anyone who is sitting there thinking the old, pre-florida anchor text algorithm has returned because their site has returned simply has no idea what is going on. Such delusion will not serve you well.
The changes on -dc are a small adjustment, and here's the main thing, during the hysteria that that the filter-ites have created, people have posted more than once that the next significant influx of fresh material would likely bring back many/most of the deserving sites that got lost (whether they tweaked the algo or not). For the most part, very little has changed on -dc. The massive algo changes are still in place.
Expect that the freshly returned sites will usually be a little bit weaker than before. Expect that they will improve within a month or so. Expect that well optimized, good content sites will continue do well under the new, more rational and complex algorithm.
Most important, be aware that the major change in the algorithm that is known as "florida" is still there. It is a massive and even historic shift in emphasis. At its root, despite some problems, it is a very, very good thing (assuming you have quality content). Perhaps with the return of some nice lost sites, people will have a better appreciation of the major improvements.
If sites were being filtered, then the sites *not* being filtered would would be unaffacted, right? That's the point of the word "not", right?
The listings in thousands of commercial search terms that I have researched show almost identical results using a nonsense word filter as before the filter was applied. Sites are moving because other sites are dropping off the map and because some sites have optimized for google more than other thus filtered more than others. There is always algo tweaking going on, but this is not the root of the issue.
I am very suprised to see it slipping over to ggogle.com so quickly though someone must have triggered the panic button over ther on the google plex. I think its about time for google guy to throw out some explanationsI think thats just how fast they've gotten. The boxes keep getting quiker and quiker.
That's been obvious from the first day.
Add the suffix, ignore the removed sites, the remaining sites are ranked differently. This part of things isn't in doubt.
Forget about your own sites and how much they move. Look at the complete picture. I have one page that I'm trying to get out of the index that has had ten fresh tags since I changed its title, but if you search for the terms in the old title, there it is sitting in the top 5, with the six week old title. Search for text on the current page, and it shows up with a fresh tag and an accurate cache. It's bizarre that the old version is living somewhere, available to come up for specific searches. A page that now says "red" on it (and has been fresh tagged daily for over month in its current state) will come up for searches for "blue" because "blue" was on the page in the summer. The point is, if I focused on that, I'd be sitting here thinking that getting pages OUT of the index was a major problem, rather than what faces many people in getting them ranked appropriately.
Regardless, the main thing people should be considering is the florida algo continues, and the de-optimizers were all wet.
Do you think that the results on -dc and www2 and 3 will migrate to www as we have moved up 100 places after de-optimizing our website slightly.
Bek.
