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>get your'e facts right!
Good point. Single hyphen domains are ALL kinds of common in non-spam sites. It is only when the # of keywords get large is it usually spam.
They have 10+ datacenters they just ____ themseleves by doing this public.
Like a zillion others, I use Google a lot to find information. Anything : technical problem, piece of news, finding suppliers ...
I have now stopped because the results are cr*p.
I'm not seeing that at all. For everything I've checked, results are at least as good as they were before the update, and they may be better. And I'm not just talking about categories where my pages rank #1. :-)
Exactly europeforvisitors. I've checked numerous info-type SERPs where my sites have never ranked. All of them looked good to me. Leading me to suspect that where there are problems, they must be in certain heavily spammed areas.
I have a look at some adult categories and they almost look like they are non-adult... a mix of un-optimized websites, directory categories, old news pages about a sex-related subject etc.
My guess is that adult and other "questionable" categories were intentionally harmed. Looks better before doing an IPO.
>My guess is that adult and other "questionable" categories were intentionally harmed. Looks better before doing an IPO.
Or, someone at Google was tweaking the spam filters. The amount of spam in adult categories tends to be huge.
I am going to up my adwords spending again to get our listings back on track with the free search...!
Google is aiming to make its results not so entirely irrelevant that it appears definitely broken, but off-target enough that the public begins to lose faith and start turning to other methods or start talking about 'the end of Google'.
Just before Christmas is a good time to do this, because, given the season, I imagine search engine queries rocket.
Then, 6 weeks before the IPO, Google fire all up the engines and slam the switches back on.
BOOM
The February 2004 newspapers start raving: Google is BACK and it's the best search engine ever! We might not have noticed just _how good_ it was if it had just trundled on as normal, but after two months of wrestling with slightly off-topic SERPS, having perfectly relevant ones now seems like a dream!
Investor confidence soars... Google sells for an even higher price than could have been dreamt of in late 2003!
I'm not seeing that at all. For everything I've checked, results are at least as good as they were before the update, and they may be better. And I'm not just talking about categories where my pages rank #1. :-)
Totally agree with this poster, the results look just as good as normal. I took a bad hit when the dom update happened but you didnt hear me moaning. It all seems like sour grapes to me.
All the people who are saying silly things such as
The public are noticing as well. I was at a customers site today. They have a standard desktop with their homepage set to Google as they are a research company. I was asked by one of the directors to change the home page to another search engine as they were finding the results had deteriorated
just look a joke really. Are they hoping it will influenece GG or something?
I think it's great big merchants like Amazon have taken a hit.
essentially, i can't say any of the sites that are there now, or were there before, didn't deserve to be there. they all have their merits. what i am sure of is that there is a problem with index pages - the rest of my site ranks exactly where it did before, and all of my non-main phrases rank the same as well - even for the index page. so it doesn't look like a penalty - it looks like either an "oopsie" or not all the algos being factored in yet. i don't buy the penalty theories at all.
>>Is their anybody here who was running Adsense had their site dropped?
I have been running AdSense on my site that has disappeared from the top 100 SERPS in all but data center 8. I haven't looked deeper than the top 100 pages. I have been tracking my AdSense results. My page impressions and click throughs have been cut in half. This means Google is losing money on my site.
It's not a "Florida" problem though, it arrived with deepfreshbot.
/claus
Yah, like every single commercial area on the web.
>Is their anybody here who was running Adsense had their site dropped?
Yep. My AdSense spots are running, but my SERP position is in the toilet. And like the other fella that responded, my clickthroughs have dropped. Folks seem more inclined to click on through if they see not just your ad, but your site show up as a top result.
Hope this sorts itself out soon.
When we lost our DMOZ listing, we lost the Google Directory as well.
DMOZ is now restored, but not Google Directory.
BUT we had a link from directory.google.com/*/*/ today, How?
Title: Keyword1 Keyword2
H1 tag: Keyword1 Keyword2
directory: keyword/keyword.html
file name: keyword-keyword.html
And with links throughout the site going to those page, by keyword1-keyword2. Not just the index.html page was hit, but any of the other main pages with this type of internal naming and linking structure.
I thought this was the logical way to do a site. Apparently not. I'll wait for a few weeks to see what happens. But it seems rather ridiculous to me to have to go and make the site less relevant to the main keywords in order to not trip some Google filter.
I don't know of anything else to do. It's a clean site.
Totally agree with this poster, the results look just as good as normal. I took a bad hit when the dom update happened but you didnt hear me moaning. It all seems like sour grapes to me.
I say:
he really needs to search on a few more searches and see what's really going on. I used altavista for the first time in about a year today because I simply couldn't find what i wanted on google. I was looking for a demo of a piece of software to open a file a client sent me. #1 was a hack/crack site #2 was a university site with one passing reference to it, #3 a gaming site mentioning the keyword in a different context and so on and so on. It was nice to see how altavista has changed since I last used it actually, and i found what i wanted.
It's not sour grapes and it's not that I think anyone from google will take any notice, i'm just saying what i see and i'd hate to see google go down the pan because i use it about 50 times a day.
Overture numbers for the term are huge, but the site is simply a parked domain.
265 links in FAST, but only 25 total links showing in Google.
