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Site dropped from Google when updated

.co.uk to .com redirect changed.

         

wrreisen

3:45 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A site I have updated has been completely dropped from google.

Before it was just on the www.widgets.com.
Now www.widgets.co.uk redirected to www.widgets.com where the content resides.
Could it have been dropped because of this?

Some additional content was added to the site.
Could it have been dropped because it may have had too higher density of keywords? It didn't look to much to me.

The way the new content was made was that other sites content was rewritten. If the rewritten content was too similar to the original content from another site. Could this have been enough to be dropped.

Is it possible to find out why the site has been dropped?
Its in all the other main search engines.
If ammendments are made. What is the process to get back in?

Any advice welcome Thanks.

Marcia

4:18 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just to be clear, first you had the .com domain and it was fine - then you redirected a co.uk domain to it and the .com got dropped?

Is it the co.uk domain that's just being pointed for redirection by the domain registrar? What kind of redirection is being used, 301 or 302?

WebGuerrilla

4:26 pm on Oct 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If the redirect was a 302, then yes, it could have caused the site to get dropped. Over the past couple of weeks, we have been getting many reports of sites getting dumped due to a 302 redirect being pointed at the site from another site.

As far as getting back in, I'd start by changing any 302's to a 301. Then I'd write Google an email asking them why it is that a highschool kid cranking out spambots in his spare time is capable of writing code that accurately follows and indexes 302 redirects, but Google's team of PhD's can't.

Maybe if they get enough complaints from webmasters who are seeing their listings dissapear due to no fault of their own, they'll get off their butts and fix the problem.

wrreisen

10:44 am on Oct 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've done a server header checker with this tool:
[webmasterworld.com...]

It comes back:

HTTP/1.1 302 Object Moved
Location: [abcwidgets.com...]
Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 146

This is a 302 and needs to be changed to a 301?

You'd change the script in the htaccess file to:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule .* [abc-widgets.com...] [R=301,L]

This code redirects requests for any resource on the www.abcwidgets.com domain to the home page of [abc-widgets.com...]

If you would rather redirect to the same page that was requested from www.abcwidgets.com, use:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ [abc-widgets.com...] [R=301,L]

[webmasterworld.com...]

ScottM

12:04 am on Oct 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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First of all...relax. I've had sites dropped for a month and then come back even stronger the next month.

Text links, my friend, text links.

plasma

7:03 pm on Oct 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It comes back

HTTP/1.1 302 Object Moved

Of course it comes back:
302 = Temporarily Moved

You need:
301 Permanently Moved

BTW:
You shouldn't be using IIS.
Nobody should :)
Upgrade to Apache.

plumsauce

10:12 am on Oct 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Over the past couple of weeks, we have been getting many reports of sites getting dumped due to a 302 redirect being pointed at the site from another site.

i wonder how the 'plex reconciles this with the
viewpoint that nothing a third party does should
be able to hurt a site. almost anyone can put up
a disposable site with a 302 to a competitor.

+++

Arnett

1:06 am on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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BTW:
You shouldn't be using IIS.
Nobody should :)
Upgrade to Apache.

I agree entirely. Get the version of Apache for Windows.

dirkz

10:36 am on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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almost anyone can put up
a disposable site with a 302 to a competitor

Yeah, this is dangerous. Otoh, from the cases I read on WW the page doing the 302 has to higher in hierarchy (e.g., PR). So it's just as easy or difficult to outrank by link building.

sullen

12:34 pm on Oct 26, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Get the version of Apache for Windows.

What? IIS is fine - criticisms of Windows may be deserved at times, but running Apache on Windows strikes me as being the worst of all worlds. You just need to know how to use IIS properly.

If you have access to Internet Services Manager, then you need to tick the box which says "this is a permanent redirect for this resource" in the home directory screen.

If not, you need to argue with your host, or put an asp page on the .co.uk site with the following code:

<%
Response.Status = "301 Moved Permanently"
Response.addheader "Location", "http://www.widgets.com"
Response.End
%>