Submit new pages manually to Google?

Does submitting each page manually help?

[moomelman]

Was wondering if submitting new pages added by page name (and not by root domain) helps in getting pages spidered.

Heres my dillema .. Ive got a few new pages that have been waiting for eternity to be ranked by google. They are in the index and cached but have a PR of 0.

By manually submitting these problem pages one by one into googles submit box weekly will this help me or hurt me?

I heard that I should be manually submiting inportant pages anyways (whether probelatic or not on a weekly basis is this true?

Thanks

[Daryl]

I have a few sites with the same problem.
I wouldn't worry too much about the PR0 showing up in the Google toolbar. The important thing is that your site is found under the key phrases you desire.
Most posts/newsletters/websites suggest not to submit to Google directly, but let the spider find the website naturally through links, I have used both techniques with the same results.
If your website has links to and from the pages within the site, then there’s no reason to submit individual pages to Google and I wouldn’t under any circumstances submit more than once to Google. No good will come of it and could actually hurt your cause.

In closing:
Give Google some more time to determine your PR. I don’t know how long “eternity” is but some of the new sites I’ve worked on have taken over two months before everything normalize at Google.

Good Luck!

[Neo541]

They are in the index and cached but have a PR of 0

If they are in the index, resubmitting them will do no good. Right now, the PR shown on the toolbar is unreliable at best, and it's best to ignore it. As long as you are in the index, keep plugging away optimizing those pages and you'll do fine :)

[moomelman]

Thanks - Ill continue breathing deeply and just be patient

[jbgilbert]

Right now, the PR shown on the toolbar is unreliable at best, and it's best to ignore it.

Ain't this the truth! I consider this to be VERY good advice. Until Google provides "clear" and consistant documentation of what gray and white bars mean, I'm ignoring that baby.

Remember, as much as SEO's wish the toolbar was there to help them, it is not.

[Gateway]

this might be a bit off topic, but ALWAYS manually submit your sites to SE's, dont use those mega submit my site to a billion SE's out there..

How long has your site been at a PR of 0? Do you have alot of sites linking to your site? Are you relying on meta tags? if your site has been like that for some times, ie several months, you should really look at your pages and find out why..

[TowerOfPower]

"...I wouldn’t under any circumstances submit more than once to Google."

[google.com...]

Google Facts & Fiction
...

Fiction: A website will be removed from Google's index if it's 'over-submitted'.

Fact: We do not require submission nor do we penalize sites for 'over-submission'. You are free to submit as often as you wish. However, given the nature of our inclusion process, your time is better spent improving the content and links of your site.

...

I have been having some trouble with google. Googlebot never crawls my site unless I submit the link. When I do, googlebot comes twice in a row over the main page, two days later. Almost makes me think something is wrong.

[daamsie]

moomelman, the PR is based on your incoming links. Google can't figure one out unless you have some incoming links to your site - just submitting a page to the search engine without any incoming links won't do the trick. IMO PR 0 usually means that when the ranking of your page is rounded it ends up at 0. (ie. it might be 0.4 in actual fact). Especially for new sites this would make sense.

If you already have enough quality incoming links, you will have to wait till G's new update (if they were up in time to be crawled) to see a PR change. Also, there should be no need to keep submitting if you have the links, because if they are high enough quality you will get regular visits automatically from that pathway.

Having said that, the advice of others is also true - PR display has been rather flaky and inconsistent recently, so best not to attach too much value to it. The more important thing is your ranking in the SERPS and guess what, to climb that ladder you need to build some good incoming links with appropriate anchor text - as you can see the game is getting links - not submitting over and over.

[moomelman]

I have links but they point to my home page and one additional sub page ... but no incoming links to my new pages ... in the past its never been a problem - the pages were picked up within a month or two and rated a 4.

I really feel whatever fine tuning Google is up to is really weird - because some sites I have read on this forum have new pages picked up no problem and ranked immediately - this makes no sense.

[Kirby]

Submitting manually isnt a guarantee that the page will be ranked. GG said in another thread that they prefer to find it via a link, which tells G that someone 'voted' for it.

[daamsie]

Moomelman, seeing as your main page is indexed and ranked - I really wouldn't worry about that little green bar. It is true that google is acting strangely, but the bar has never been anything more than an indicator anyway.

Don't bother submitting the deep pages manually every week - it is an utter waste of time and whoever told you that you should was probably trying to make money off of you somehow :-)

Your mission is to get LOTS of quality links to your front page (not 1 or 2, but dozens and dozens) - by association your deeper pages will also get spidered more often because they have incoming links from your homepage. Your time is much better spent looking for those links and boosting your main page's PR to a 5 at least as well as improving your incoming link text in the process.