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Google Submission.

How to submit a site after having optimized it.

         

Balgu

7:16 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have everything optimized at my site. What are the right steps now to have it submitted at Google?

Thanks in advance.

agerhart

7:21 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You don't really need to submit your website to Google. I would start building your link popularity and gaining links to attract Googlebot.

pmac

7:23 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Balgu and welcome [webmasterworld.com] to WebmasterWorld. You would have been better off posting this in the Google news forum A good place to start would be here [webmasterworld.com].

EliteWeb

7:23 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Answering your topic question 'How to submit a site after having it optimized..' you can submit to [google.com...] but like said work on your links :)

Mohamed_E

7:36 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Balgu,

Welcome to WebmasterWorld!

> I have everything optimized at my site.

Before claiming that you have optimized everything I suggest that you read Brett's post on Successful Site in 12 Months with Google Alone [webmasterworld.com] :)

Balgu

8:30 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks everybody for their reply, hope this place could be a useful resource of practical knowledge.
Mohamed, when I said I had everything optimized it was because it quickly appeared on Google's search. Then I've changed <meta name="revisit-after" content from 30 to 5 days an now it's not at Google anymore.
I've had read somewhere that if you make (the spider?) come again in a short period you could be "banned" from Google.
I don't know if this is true. I'm not skeptical to everything I read and I don't believe all what I read but I SEE results. This was one and I wanted to share with you all.
Btw, I appreciate the article you left at your response. Interesting.
I don't know who are people who get good results on this and if they want to share the experience or not because of competence. I read lots of comments out there about SEO, SE submission, etc. but I'd like to know WHO DOES really KNOW HOW to make a site being able at Google.

I'd like to share my code with you... Hope we can talk over this:

<title>my page - my title</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="keywords" content="my keywords, more keywords">
<meta name="description" content="bla bla bla.">
<meta name="author" content="First Second Lastname, First Lastname, mysite.com">
<meta name="owner" content="myname@mydomain.com">
<meta name="generator" content="Hand Code">
<meta name="formator" content="Hand Code">
<meta name="distribution" content="Global">
<meta name="language" content="en-us">
<meta name="abstract" content="My abstract Message.">
<meta name="rating" content="general">
<meta name="revisit-after" content="30 days">
<meta name="classification" content="Internet Services">
<meta name="robots" content="all">
<LINK REV=made href="mailto:myname@mydomain.com (My name)">

Sorry about my English.

Regards,

Marcelo.

Mohamed_E

8:58 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Marcello,

> Sorry about my English.

No need to apologize. This is an international forum, we all come from different parts of the world. After all, they call it the World Wide web!

> but I'd like to know WHO DOES really KNOW HOW to make a site being able at Google.

Unfortunately we do not come with labels that say exactly how much each one of us knows :)

With a forum like this one you will soon learn that some people know a lot, others just talk a lot. With time it is quite easy to distinguish between the two groups, but it is difficult until you become more familiar with our group.

Do not give too much weight to the number of posts, a bad post get counted just as well as a good one.

Now onto your site (please remember that what I write is just my opinion):

<title>my page - my title</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="keywords" content="my keywords, more keywords">
<meta name="description" content="bla bla bla.">

All very important. Make sure that the title reflects your main keywords, but also that it reads well, it will show prominently in the search results.

I should add that meta keywords is much less important than the others, few engines even look at it, none gives it much weight. But it probably has some value.

<meta name="author" content="First Second Lastname, First Lastname, mysite.com">
<meta name="owner" content="myname@mydomain.com">
<meta name="generator" content="Hand Code">
<meta name="formator" content="Hand Code">
<meta name="distribution" content="Global">

Probably all uselss.

<meta name="language" content="en-us">

Not sure about this one, I use:

<html lang="en">

<meta name="abstract" content="My abstract Message.">

Again, probably useless.

<meta name="rating" content="general">

Probably useless, software that filters for adult content looks for a thing called a pics label, do a Google search for that for more details.

<meta name="revisit-after" content="30 days">

Completely useless, search engines revisit your site when they want to, not when you want them to :(

<meta name="classification" content="Internet Services">

Not sure it helps at all.

<meta name="robots" content="all">

Useless.

Again, one man's opinion, you will probably hear other opinions. Read everything carefully and decide what seems to make sense to you.

Balgu

9:26 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Hi Mohamed. Thanks for your words and let me add something else for you all.
1) I'm trying to figure out why I had my site submited at Google and somedays later it dissapeared. I haven't changed anything at it more than <meta name="revisit-after" content="30 days"> tag to 5 days (now it's 30 days again), so... if this tag is useless I'd like to know why my site does not appear now on the search.

2) Just a tip. I don't know if Google changes its search methodology everytime a google dance goes but when I had my site first submitted I could figure out the title and the first words on my page are the ones that were displayed at Google result. That's to say, if I were looking for "best flower sellers" (try this), you'll get as result:

Plaza101 Best Sellers In Season Flowers Flowers & Gifts Online (this is the title)

... Sale Price: $129.99 Buy Now. Home > Flowers & Gifts > Flowers > In Season
> Best Sellers. Best Wishes Bear $39.95, Parade Bouquet $29.99. ... (these are the first words Google finds on this page) so what I did before is to add some words at the same colour of my background to let be this the description at Google.
I'm not really sure but I think I read something before about not writing anythink on the same colour of your background.

Thanks again,

Marcelo.

twilight47

10:02 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Balgu,
Welcome to WebmasterWorld!

1) I'm trying to figure out why I had my site submited at Google and somedays later it dissapeared. I haven't changed anything at it more than <meta name="revisit-after" content="30 days"> tag to 5 days (now it's 30 days again), so... if this tag is useless I'd like to know why my site does not appear now on the search.

Your new site is getting a fresh update, but the site is not indexed yet. It may flash in and out for a bit, however if it gets freshened like that then it will be indexed in the future. How long will it take? Who knows?
The revisit meta tag is worthless.

I have everything optimized at my site.

If this means lots of good links to your site then you are all set, assuming no spam Google will get you.

Balgu

10:37 pm on Jul 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Your new site is getting a fresh update, but the site is not indexed yet.
Why do you say my site is not indexed? It's nothing to do with writing <meta name="robots" content="INDEX"> on my page. You mean it has to be indexed on Google's Servers, right?
So... the idea would be that it appeared before because I was looking at some results on certain servers and now Google's showing me results on other? or is it that it existed before and now it's deleted? It's not clear for me yet.
When you say that it's getting a fresh update, what do you exactly mean?

Regarding what I said I had everything optimized at my site, I was talking about code, meta tags, etc. I had it all. Though that doesn't mean it was all ready to be at Google. Perhaps I said it wrong. Anyway, I still don't really know which tags are useless and which usefull. It'd be great to have this understood and with grounds (basis) and to place it at webmaster.com as an article. I think that could be great and could help us a lot on our redundant questions.

If this means lots of good links to your site then you are all set, assuming no spam Google will get you.

Thanks you all in advance,

Marcelo.