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needinfo

11:22 am on Jul 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have a site on which I have been monitoring on all 9 datacentres. Today I noticed that on the same server my site shows fresh tag for "blue widgets online" search term but not for "blue widgets".

I totally don't understand how this can happen.

Brett_Tabke

5:37 pm on Jul 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Which part about different indexes doesn't make sense?

Allergic

5:43 pm on Jul 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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For the same page or not?

DavidT

11:15 pm on Jul 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Which part about different indexes doesn't make sense?

The part about what, if anything, I am supposed to do about it if my index page has vanished from one for its main terms, ranks incredibly well on another, and has been replaced by a dynamic off-site link/page on another.

mipapage

12:28 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Which part about different indexes doesn't make sense?

Brett - Can you expand on this? 'cause I don't see him mentioning different indexes in his msg, and from what he says...

Today I noticed that on the same server

what I understand is that he's seeing freshtags for the same page for one search and not the other, at the same datacenter. If so, seems odd to me, however if it's for the site (and different pages) it's not so odd at all.

TIA...

[edited by: mipapage at 12:38 am (utc) on July 3, 2003]

GrinninGordon

12:30 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)



needinfo

Maybe you have attracted a penalty for "Blue Widgets" based on anchor text? How does your site rank for "Blue Widgets"?

needinfo

12:51 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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GrinninGordon

My site ranked approx. 8 places lower for "blue widgets".

P.S. I think Brett misunderstood what i was trying to say in this thread.

P.P.S When i say my site I mean the same page... sorry for any misunderstanding.

GrinninGordon

1:07 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)



needinfo

Things are so weird. I still think that Google has a chunk of calculation data missing. My theory is that when they did the previous update, GG admitted they used a stale data dump, as they had to test it thoroughly and be sure. One of the new facits of Google's latest algo is the freshbot is now the kingpin, in order to bring more dynamic, fresher results.

I can imagine that this is taking a LOT of their processing power, and that the missing data from around March to May? of this year is slowly being caught up with. Missed by the data dump they had to use for the previous update, ignored (as it is not fresh) by the new king pin freshbot. Slowly being added / calculated.

I just wish GG would stump up and stay something on the issue. I am worried that he is not because my theory is wrong, and that all the work I did a few months back based on advice from all the members here (including GG) was self-defeating!

rfgdxm1

1:36 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Each datacenter is composed of a *lot* of different Linux boxes. Thus, two different searches won't necessarily hit all the same boxes. This is just a quirk of Google, and nothing to worry much about.

GrinninGordon

1:42 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)



rfgdxm1

My friend is a tad concerned, as am I. You can ping any of their boxes for her domain, and it will not make a blind bit of difference. Either she got banned, but I REALLY can not see how. Or there is data / calculation loss.

mipapage

1:51 am on Jul 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Each datacenter is composed of a *lot* of different Linux boxes. Thus, two different searches won't necessarily hit all the same boxes. This is just a quirk of Google, and nothing to worry much about.

Right, forgot about that. That could explain the sometimes there sometimes not fresh-tag, though you would expect that to eventually 'get consistent'...