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Here are spme questions.
--How often will the new google index change and recalculate PR?
--Did Esmeralda get it all?
My older sites still rank fine but my newer ones did not do as well as I expected. It's almost as though all backlinks were not figured in yet to the PR calcs.
Thanks,
Why would Google feel a page is relevant enough to show users as the first result sometimes than other times not show it anywhere?
Phasing in and/or testing spam filters would be one obvious explanation.
So, they test the spam filters on and off all day? That seems like a strange strategy- displaying filtered SERPS live half the day. If they felt the pages were spam, I would hope they wouldn't show them at all.
From my knowledge of some of the pages I follow and what has been happening, IMO, it is highly unlikely that these pages would attract a spam filter.
why pages appear #1 on SERPS than COMPLETELY dissapear later.
You guys are trying to make a feature out of a bug.
This theory holds no water with what I am describing. If they were filtering some pages, there would be no reason for these pages to pop up #1 SOMETIMES and then vanish.
Additionally, there would be no reason for index files, sometimes more optimized than missing ones, to solidly stick through all of this.
Furthermore, plenty of index files not optimized at all have turned up missing.
Something ain't right. The pages flailing their way in, out, and around the index aren't spam.
Something is erratic. Can GoogleGuy elaborate?
Watching dancing data centers is bad for your health. A major site of mine appeared 10 minutes ago on www2/www3/fi for the first time in at least a week or so... but I've gotten excited too many times in the last month only to be dropped like a stone 5 minutes later.
It'll drive you crazy if you let it.
I mention the recips as that has been one of the backbones of the web since its inception and would be a major change in the way that the web works if Google really decided they were not important. And just my opinion, would probably dump alot of real linking that goes on (natural linking)
Yah, fi- marching to the beat of a different drummer.
I guess we'll just have to hope that some of these good, relevant, highly referenced pages will stick in the index for a few days at least.
The index page for major keywords has stuck in 4 or 5 of the datacenters. Before, they would appear for an hour and then be gone.
They were there last night and still here today, so for me this is the best it's been in over two months if they stay and move to all the centers.
The SEO filter doesn't add up. While a lot of my #1 anchor text spots dropped, only to recently reappear, I did have a couple that stayed during the whole switchover. Those were optimized just like the others.
It appears to me that there has been data sitting off somewhere while they made the switchover that is slowly being brought back in. That in my case would make more sense than a filter.
Now that GoogleGuy has said the switchover was made, it will be interesting to see how and when new backlinks are caculated into the picture. It would not suprise me if the actual links and PR were being caclulated in the fly and then once a month the actual number will change along with PR. The only people who watch backlinks and PR are Webmasters, so changing the actual display once a month would not affect the searches at all sense during the month the calculations are being made daily or every other day.
The site you are having problems with.
Did you have top 10 listings for your main keyword in Nov/Dec time?
Or did your best rankings occur since this time?
mrguy
The sites you have had no problems with, would you say that they generally had good rankings pre Nov/Dec time? Or did they occur since then?
I would respectfully disagree. Early hyperlinks from what i remember were more often than not one-way. SEO was what drove the proportion of reciprocal links up, and it could be argued that is not "natural"
I doubt any google penalty (or donwgrading for the pages) for recip links would be blanket or simple, but would take into account several factors to ascertain whether the recips came about by webmasters scratching each others backs (iid show yours if you show mine) or by a more "ecological" motive. It may be happening, and it would make a lot of sense, but if it is, it would be part of a more complex analysis.
Scary part is, just like Dominic, GoogleGuy does not seem to recognize that the problem even exists.
It seems hard to believe that the folks at the plex don't realize that SERPS are still fluctuating wildly- and pages being dropped completely then resurfacing at the top.
What will Google do? It will fluctuate!
UK_Web_Guy
Yes, I had top 10 rankings for this index page since even before Nov/Dec. I was very stable at #6. Lets call this site A and is optimized for Widget Whatever Online.
The subdirectory of site A that has not been effected, has been very stable at #3, since before Nov/Dec. They are still #3 and have not had any bouncing or anything. They are optimized the same exact way as the missing index. This subdirectory is optimized for Widget Advertising.
The interesting part is this. Nearly all of the site's backlinks point to site A. Most of the anchor text for these backlinks are either Widget Whatever Online, or Widget Whatever Online - WidgetingCompany.com. Again, only a fraction of the backlinks are even showing up on the index page. These are old backlinks too (from pre Novemeber), not new ones. Added - and MAJOR PR8 ones at that.
while i do this and fluctuate, a competitor with a page listed only with keywords and hidden text that redirects to his actual website holds steady.
A reminder: Please stick within the scope of the original topic. If the post was about a search command, then that's not a reason to talk about installing the toolbar. Or if the topic is about a summary of the recent update, then that is not the place to ask larry and sergey for a personal site reviews.
I just zapped about 40 off topic messages in this thread (did not sticky - but did take names).
We aren't kidding around here - we are very serious about bringing the Google forum back up to the quality level that say the Browsers, CSS, and PHP/Perl forums are again.
So if this plea doesn't work, the next step is removing some accounts (a couple senior members too boot) and after that, blocking ip's. This is too valuable a resource to allow a few who won't play nice to ruin it for all of us.
Anyway, back on topic.
The update or what was formerly known as the update - is over for this month. On behalf of the other 99,900 members of webmasterworld - please, lets move on!
