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hightraffic10

1:34 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have read the many posts about links being kicked in later and so forth but this is very strange. For almost a week our main site with 700+ links only shows 59 while our other little sites have not seen any change. It seems that throughout alot of sites have lost a ton of links. Is it to early to worry or should I stand by Google Guy's words that backlinks will be accounted for later. It makes me nervous though because it's dance time and links should be going up not down.

Sorry got rambling alittle bit, can people share some of their link experiences, I would be intereted to here some responses.

menton

1:56 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hi hightraffic10,

My links have remained stable since after Dominic and none of the lost links have returned.

menton

Petrocelli

5:13 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One site of mine lost about 95% of its PR3+ incoming links. A search for the most common anchor texts shows that the external sites are definitely indexed, but link:www.mydomain.com seems to ignore most of them.

Peter

Total Paranoia

5:32 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have over 1000 backlinks in alltheweb.

Pre Dominic I had 500 in google.

Post Dominic over 200.

Now I have under 100 and have dropped PR (Surprise Surprise!)

Oh well.. who cares?

Raaaaaaaag!

James_Dale

5:40 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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One site I'm down from 1700+ backlinks to 54.
Another site from 600+ to 67

Also seeing strange occurances of domains without the www prefix, which is connected to the reduced (in some cases zero) PR scores.

Links from pages with lots of other links seem to be discounted.

hightraffic10

6:33 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I would agree that some links are being discounted or thrown away but many of the links I have are for all of my sites. These other sites are showing alot more links than my main site. If this was to be true all of my sites would suffer. The strange thing is that I notice that some sites are not even afffected by this. Will these links return?

James_Dale

6:40 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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no, the links will never return.

mfishy

6:41 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Some links were just "flat out" missed last crawl. It's easy to tell if there are two links from a page and one is "showing" and the other is not.

I would expect the new crawl process to become more accurate over time.

James_Dale

6:46 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just pulling your leg there in my last post ;)
Who knows if they'll return? Mine have been gone since dominic started. I hope and pray they'll be there each time I check, but alas, no.

hightraffic10

6:48 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I dont know that I can agree that the links will not return, if they are there why are they not being counted for. Why would one site get credit for a link and another site would not if they are coming from the same place. My links are out there it just doesnt make sense that they are not being accounted for.

Petrocelli

6:54 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hightraffic,

please remember that G only shows backlinks from PR3+ sites ...

Netizen

7:01 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just to say...

On Google: link:domain.com shows only PR4 backlinks
On AllTheWeb: link:domain.com shows all backlinks

On Google I would suggest something like

"domain.com" -site:domain.com to get an idea of the number of sites that link to you. When I do this I get much closer numbers for Google at ATW.

coconutz

7:12 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>> please remember that G only shows backlinks from PR3+ sites ...

Google used to only list backlinks for pages that were PR4 or higher, and only displayed backlinks which were PR4 or higher, with minor exceptions.

Currently I have PR0 pages that return results when using the link: command, as well as a number of backlinks listed that are PR0 to PR3.

Tropical Island

7:27 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We have been watching this link thing quite closely as we replaced one of our competitors back in April on two sites which are PR4 & PR5. While the new backlinks are showing for our site the discontinued links are still showing for our competitor.

Have no idea what this means. Still further updates to happen?

Camster

7:53 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just used Netizen's "domain.com" -site:domain.com search to check out my backlinks. (thanks!) Found a backlink I'd never seen before. It's an Amazon page that includes Google Adwords. Wonder if they filter these out from the "links:domain.com" search?

Jakpot

7:54 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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The link game and attendent abuse is over.

dharvey

8:03 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here is an interesting question for all of you out there. How many links does it require from PR 3+ sites to get a decent pagerank. I've right now in development of my site got 2 backlinks, each have a PR of 3 and yet my site still has a PR of 0, I have contacted several sites and within the next month I plan to have a lot more links from PR 5-6 sites. So once again my question is: How many backlinks does it take for Google to determine a good or decent PR?

James_Dale

8:24 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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85% of a page's PR divided by the number of links on a page = the PR passed on to the target page. (or so PageRank Uncovered says)

baron13

8:45 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi there!

My sites all have about +1200 approved links but google shows only about 60-130 backlinks (all link exchanging partners have a minimum pagerank of 3!) I hope they will make some updates.....grrr!

But on another website I have seen that this guy has build up crosslinks with 5 of his own sites and he only links from all his subsites to his other domains. With this method he receives 3450 counted backlinks at google! Is that fair?

What happens if the backlinks wont be counted in the near future? Will this be the end of link exchanging? Is the whole link trading work for nothing?
I thought that this is the most important way for google to evaluate websites and that this is the "heart" of googles algorythm!?

Strange days.....

Netizen

11:35 pm on Jun 27, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google's PageRank [tm] is just one of dozens [100+?] of ingredients in the Google algorithm. It is just that it is the most talked about and easily viewed (using the Google toolbar).