Are "Freshie" Pages Still Sticking?

Do they remain in the live index?

[Seattle_SEM]

Pre-Dominic, we used to see a new page come into the index, and then be removed with the next Freshie update. Are people still seeing evidence of this?

Personally, in working with one client, I haven't changed the home page (on purpose) in an attempt to validate a theory I have:

If the "crawl path" which freshie used to discover this new content doesn't change between freshie updates, then the content will "stick" between freshie visits.

So:
1) Is freshie content sticking, in general?
2) Or, does my theory have merit?

[DerekH]

Seattle_SEM wrote
>So:
>1) Is freshie content sticking, in general?

Not even that simple...
One of my associates had a site go down and be replaced by an Apache Test page.
That was "freshed". And that stuck. Like glue.

The Esme came along and the repaired site reappeared, centre by centre.

As of 4 days ago, all 9 data centres had the new pages.
But now, even today, the occasional centre reverts to the Test Page, as if there's a hidden supply of old pages to dip back into.

Sticky? Yes
Stuck? Not quite!
DerekH

[Stefan]

1) No, not in my case. I had a new page crawled on the 21st, showed in the serps in all dc's yesterday, and vanished today. It was less sticky than I would normally expect from a freshbot listing. It was in the serps for about 24 hr's.

2)

If the "crawl path" which freshie used to discover this new content doesn't change between freshie updates, then the content will "stick" between freshie visits.

I could be wrong, but it seems that once Google has found a page with freshie, the next bot can come straight into the page after a robots.txt... meaning there is only a crawl path when Google first finds the page, after that the page is in their data and can be crawled in whatever page sequence. I'm not 100% on that.

EDIT: for clarity

[olwen]

I have a new site. It's bouncing between showing just the old placeholder, and showing 7 other pages. It's good I know enough not to panic.