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musical www. chairs?

a very simple question?

         

abcdef

8:55 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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these days, at a given point in time, will all users around the world who query www.google.com for the same exact keyphrase, come up with the same results?

if not, has it always been this way that they may not?

mcavic

10:12 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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No, for two reasons. Different people even in the same city could be querying different data centers, and those data centers often have different indexes. I imagine this has been the case ever since Google has had more than 1 data center.

And then geo-targeting, which I believe is a newer idea.

twilight47

10:28 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Quick Poll:

Who thinks the musical chairs with the different data centers is part of Google's plan for varying results
and who thinks that the datacenters will still all align with more similar results?

abcdef

10:35 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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aha. i would have thought that for one reason or another too (it's hard to actually check. :)) that your illustrations were always true maybe ok, but they do seem much more pronounced during this google day and age:

for instance:

i note that when i search (all searches are on www.) where i live in so. cal, on a particular term we are ranked on, it's with a given number of listing results of lets say 4MM. now, when i track a google referral URL for the same keyword that found our site, but on a regional index, the total population of results is 1/2, or 2MM, and we show up much higher ranked... i.e. the less competition, the better our site seems to do in the ranking of results.......

however, this doesn't seem like it was always the case. or at least this extreme. we are clearly doing much better in other parts of the world, which seem to have smaller google databases to draw from (at least now)..

we are a worlwide product, however the most important traffic for us is stateside, which seems to be the most competitive google database as well.....

i dont know if i am making much sense in what i am trying to convey... that these days if two different days keyphrase reports on google match up phrase by phrase, it doesn't necessarily mean the days were of equal quality traffic. it seemed more apples to apples once a upon a time, than it does today.

put another way. i would rather be on page 4 of www. that i know and love, and know i am showing up everywhere on page four just like that, than position number one in some markets that are not as good for us to show up in. and these days i think this kind of things is happening more....

however, i could be all wet.

abcdef

10:38 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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and for any subsequent posters... this post isn't specifically about google rotating the various indexes right now as part of what they are doing. which i am aware of and accept as a fact of life for now.

it's more about changes in the way google is showing results period... and that does 10 hits on a keyphrase today, mean the same things as 10 hits on the same keyphrase before G.C...

before Google Change.

Chris_D

11:16 pm on Jun 23, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't know the answer - but another WW member & I tried this last week. We both searched the same datacentre by name, for the same phrase - at prettymuch the same time - with our Google preferences set to be the same (ie search all languages, 100 results etc). He tried it from USA, I tried it from Australia. Then stickied the serps.

The SERPS were different. We decided that its a geography thing.

Clark

6:36 am on Jun 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Chris, we should try that worldwide right from here. Since we have some restrictions here how about we all search for widgets and tally results (minus WW which will dominate haha)

Hollywood

7:05 am on Jun 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think this is a great idea, set a time up, say like 11ŠPM EST Thursday night!?

Search for "web page" hit the enter key at 11PM on the nose (EST)

Problem is Googleguy will read this and add the old Algo 20 sec's before 11. :)

But it is interesting as we could all report back where we are located etc and see what we can figure out.

If anything it would be interesting as long as the plan is not sabotaged. (sp?)

Hollywood

abcdef

8:09 pm on Jun 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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sounds good to me. i'm in.

i asked a moderator in email if we could do a test on this and post the keyphrase being searched and the serp results we could all compare from different parts of the world...

figuring search on Googleguy, and isoldated a webmaster.com SERP from the search which is sure to be close to the top. haha

never heard back from them, so i presume it's ok to do a public display of this type.